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Winston Peters says Whangārei fluoridation mandate a 'despotic Soviet-era disgrace' (www.rnz.co.nz)
submitted 5 days ago by BalpeenHammer to c/newzealand
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Once again Winston makes me feel ashamed to be a Kiwi and makes me despise the majority of the country which put people like this in power over our lives.

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[–] passwordforgetter 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When fluoride is added to the water it's applied at around 3 parts per million. In toothpaste it's usually 800 ppm or as high as 1300 ppm. So why aren't they putting in 50x or 100x more fluoride, to help our teeth? Oh that's right, it's toxic and you're not meant to drink it. Please reconsider your stance on this. Fluoride will cost a ridiculous amount of money with no benefit.

I had numerous fillings as a child because I drank coke all the time. I had my last filling in 2003, at age 13. Since then I've used a mix of fluoride and Red Seal Baking Soda / Strong Mint toothpaste, and I've never had any fillings or pain. There is no fluoride here in Christchurch water, my dental health is a result of my good choices. We cannot force people to make good choices about their health, but we can give them information and encourage them in the right direction.

Supporting fluoride is the ultimate un-scientific, nanny-state solution for people who believe in the power of the state - more than they believe in the ability of citizens to make better choices. We need to get fluoride out of the water and treat it like a menace, like chlorine. I don't want to spend thousands of dollars on a filter to get rid of fine fluoride particles. Just don't add it to the water. It doesn't do any good for anyone. Junk science + cope.

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[–] BalpeenHammer 3 points 1 day ago

So why aren’t they putting in 50x or 100x more fluoride, to help our teeth?

Because it's not needed to be at that concentration to be effective in water.

you know....

Science!

Please reconsider your stance on this. Fluoride will cost a ridiculous amount of money with no benefit.

I have considered my stance of this carefully and have decided you are full of shit. It doesn't cost a lot of money and it has documented proven benefits.

I had numerous fillings as a child because I drank coke all the time. I had my last filling in 2003, at age 13. Since then I’ve used a mix of fluoride and Red Seal Baking Soda / Strong Mint toothpaste, and I’ve never had any fillings or pain.

cool story bro. I am adamantly against setting public policy based on your anecdotes.

Supporting fluoride is the ultimate un-scientific, nanny-state solution for people who believe in the power of the state - more than they believe in the ability of citizens to make better choices.

Ah. I automatically dismiss all opinions by anybody who uses the phrase "nanny state". It indicates that a person is not capable of rational thought and instead has been swayed by rhetoric spewed by right wing think tanks and various anti science kooks populating the internet.

I don’t want to spend thousands of dollars on a filter to get rid of fine fluoride particles.

Collect rain water. Also don't filter it. Also drink raw milk. Also don't take any vaccines. Also don't go to the doctor.