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Good. Alcohol is evil anyway.
eViL
Hope you don't consume soy sauce.
what's wrong with soy sauce
It has alcohol in it, so religious fundamentalists that say alcohol is evil and eat fried rice are being hypocritical. Same goes for a lot of products, alcohol is everywhere and helps add flavor to a lot of foods.
Unless the original commenter was referring to the negative societal impacts of excessive alcohol consumption and alcoholism, but they didn't clarify.
I indeed rarely do, funnily enough, and haven't owned it in my home for years!
Lol what a judgemental person
Huh? I don't judge drug users; I judge the substance itself, which should be banned.
It's not "drugs and alcohol"; it's "drugs." Anything else only means alarmingly successful marketing.
I'm not against mind-altering substances! If people need relaxation through a mind-altering substance, marijuana has consistently proven to be far healthier overall, since you can't overdose on it and there is no hangover if used correctly. Alcohol, on the other hand...
https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/alcohol-and-your-health-risks-benefits-and-controversies-202501273088
https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohols-effects-health/alcohols-effects-body
We tried that. It didn't go so well.
Right, but it was also a totally different world back then with cannabis, psilocybin, etc. nowhere near as well-studied nor accessible. Arguably anything before the advent of the Internet, and even anything before COVID and now AI, is outdated if not plain unusable as a reference point...
Anyway, I was being a bit tongue-in-cheek as bans aren't that effective regardless, but imposing a massive, tobacco-like tax would get my support, given its life-ruining ratio to all other stuff (relative to public accessibility, anyway).
I'm more in favor of decriminalization. I would only react similarly to you for cocaine, meth, heroin, and PCP. Those are bad news.
That works! And agreed...
Um, is there a Mothers Against Table Salt organization? Or are you saying that Mothers Against Drunk Driving is comprised of judgmental asses? I didn't post that comment just because I'm a teetotaler. Maybe you haven't seen the pain and suffering of those with severe alcoholics in their families like I have, in which case I hope you never do.
And wine is famously only made in the USA.
I am pretty sick of its ubiquity. Like my friends can't even hang out unless it's somewhere that serves.
I don't see votes but you're probably downvoted to hell. People get real weird when you start criticising what they eat or drink.
Yes, people do get "weird" when you literally call them "evil".
"I don't like the way that drinking alcohol is seen as a neccessary component of socialising in our society." <-- Completely reasonable statement, even as someone who drinks I agree wholeheartedly. North America in particular has a serious problem with a lack of third spaces that aren't bars or other places that serve alcohol.
"Alcohol is evil" <-- Absolutely deranged thing to say, deserves to be down voted into oblivion. I cannot even begin to imagine what would possess someone to willingly share this thought with the universe.
I did not call people evil but the substance, and my stance has nothing to do with socializing (which is fine) but rather everything to do with the pain of drunk driving, abuse, addiction, permanent bodily harm, psychological scarring, and death that are all results of alcohol intake. Why play with fire? Let's look at other drugs:
I don't even understand why I'm conducting this research right now; why are you disagreeing? Arguing against science is like saying the damage from leaded gasoline was all fine. That article was from 2016, so let's find something more recent for relevance:
That was just from Nov. 2024. I hope I don't have to go on. There are so many incredible and safer ways to have fun (and even ones that are as wild or wilder, when it comes to certain mind-altering substances). /c/stopdrinking exists for a reason, and I'm not gonna minimize their struggle in light of those ratios above.
You and my liver are natural and sworn enemies. ;)
I didn't mean "evil" from a morality perspective, but was describing how damaging it is to people's health: https://www.who.int/europe/news/item/04-01-2023-no-level-of-alcohol-consumption-is-safe-for-our-health