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True Leftists are fun. They complain when you do, and they complain when you don't.
Hi, actual leftist here.
Is Newsom a garbage person, a slimy politician with no real core beliefs, who just tight rope walks a balance between the desires of his constituents, and his wealthy donors?
Yes.
Can garbage people actually do the right thing from time to time, be on the right side of an issue?
Also yes.
Keep it up Newsom, this is the kind of 'fuck you, make me!' energy/vibe/whatever we need to actually have a shot at resisting Trump from within the system, instead of basically being completely on our own.
Maybe this will be a genuinely radicalizing experience for him.
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I would love for there to be an actual, formal, 'legitmate' body or group of people actually, effectively, resisting Trump, instead of wringing their hands and complaining about how powerless they are.
Politics is the game of acquiring and wielding power.
Sitting down and crying about how you don't know what to do is cucking yourself, and makes all your supporters into simps for a cuck.
Sorry to use the colorful language, no kink-shaming if thats your thing in the bedroom, but that is how I feel, and being a simp in the context of politics and governance is... not the place for such behavior.
If on the other hand we get some actually useful resistance from 'legitimate' officials, well then that means there might be a chance at 'legitimately' reaisting... but its going to mean a whole lot of libs are gonna have to learn how to actually play hardball the way Republicans have been the last 20 years... the way Gavin is here.
Got any good news articles about this? I don’t see much about him except his podcast and headlines like these. But nothing ever dives into who he actually is and some might call him a “garbage person”.
He's been a proponent of a lot of right-wing talking points and stupid policies that run against what most left-leaning people in California want. Most recently he endorsed a bill that would require an absolutely criminally obtuse asset-check to get disability insurance in the wealthiest state in America, a state which is wealthier than most countries.
He doesn't support trans athletes, he has worked to end homeless encampments without providing them an option, he's been anti-union and snuggles with people like Charlie Kirk.
That's just what I know for myself without looking up sources, just what I remember as I have followed Cali news.
But all that said, yes, as /u/sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com said, you can support someone when they are fighting for what you believe in, and despite my knowledge that Newsom is a giant snake, he's doing and saying the right things here and I support it.
A lot of people who aren't terminally online would be shocked at just how divisive this issue is among leftists, but I am quite sure that's just because leftists/progressives are so deprived of being able to have intellectual debates, since you can't have intellectual arguments with the right, that they're forced to infight just to exercise mental capacity to some degree.
For an appetizer, read up on how during COVID lockdowns he was still out dining at Michelin restaurants. For your main course, learn about how much money he has personally invested in the corrupt “public” utility PG&E. Then for dessert listen to the Behind the Bastards podcast about how truly heinous and evil Dr. Mehmet Oz is, and ask yourself why anybody would ever give that sentient snail a platform of legitimacy.
I missed the part where Newsome is actually impeding ICE.
None of the people posting on this site are 'true leftists' they're keyboard warriors.
Hopefully these comments are the ones that will make it clear just how hard the "Democrats bad" narrative is being pushed on Lemmy.
They want us to focus more on the Dems than the people actually implementing fascism. They want to manipulate the next election, and they're starting early. It will get worse.
"Democrats bad narrative"
Idk, the actions of the governor of the state where national guard and potentially military are being mobilized against Americans exercising their first amendment rights, seems kind of relevant to the whole thing.
Yes the part where he is opposing that and not the one implementing it is relevant
Good point. The protestors do that and more and they have a fraction of the power Newsom has. It's pathetic.
It's much more effective to fracture a group by pretending to be part of it than by leveling criticism from the outside.
Exactly. And it's going to work despite the few comments we leave here pointing it out.
It's an iteration on r/thedonald.
Just like there, some of it is genuine. And more of it is genuine because it's easy and fits in with the "consensus".
Luckily the mod/admin powers here aren't being used to assist it, unlike previous times.
Who are you talking about and how is it related to this story?
Please go away.
Username checks out.
Anyone that uses the term 'leftist' is a fuckwit.
You don't have to like the term, but you probably shouldn't describe everyone who uses a term you don't like as a "fuckwit."
You may find this helpful when discussing US political differences on the left-hand side of the aisle: https://helpfulprofessor.com/leftist-vs-liberal/
Downvote all you like, but terms like that are just tribal bullshit that helps no-one.
I only got to downvote once, though.