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Working together doesn't mean we have to pretend our allies have no issues.
Newsom doesn't meaningfully resist fascism and his brand of politics are a major part of why we're here. Yeah, I'll stand by him while he's fighting, but that doesn't mean we can't criticize him.
We can't afford to see him as a true ally. He will abandon everything we're fighting for if it benefits him. A tiny percent of leftists criticizing him online amongst themselves will have no impact on how successfully the fascists are able to seize control.
I'm out there alongside liberals who hate most of what I believe, we can be open about that while still working together. We have a common enemy that needs to be stopped.
It means working with people you don't like but it doesn't mean we have to pretend they're perfect, or even good.
If the conversation is about what they are doing to help, maybe don’t be a dick about it, there is a time and a place. Choose your battles.
imo an important part of discussing what someone is doing to help is discussing how much we can trust them and how they're capable of helping. That mecessitates discussing what they're bad at.
You're 100% right there's a time and a place. I think a discussion in a left-leaning place like Lemmy with essentially no impact on what action people take is an appropriate place.
Anytime you discuss a single action of a person, you must also bring up every bad thing they have done, or you are "covering" for them. There are a 1000 articles posted about Newsom that have comment sections that lay all that shit out, repeatedly. Everyone knows he is corrupt, and sadistically trying to make being homeless criminal, and more.
We aren't discussing that in this thread. At the moment we are specifically discussing him being the only congress member to be actively standing up to a far more corrupt president. Post one of the million articles about the awful shit Newsom has done, and then talk about it there.
In real life if you see people having a discussion about something, would you then butt in with something off topic, just because it relates to an aspect of their conversation?
In a post discussing how he is one of the few U.S. politicians making a substantial stand against the authoritarian regime with the legitimate threat of arrest while we stand on the cusp of civil war, I would respectfully and highly disagree.