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Wow, do you have to be so aggressive with your communication?
Because the OP accused me of being a piece of shit human being who is opposed to inclusion and diversity.
How should I have reacted to such an insult?
What they said was they were glad the people involved on the kapa haka group were more inclusive than you.
You then flew off the handle at the minor slight. They then joined you afterwards.
You were doing great with the argument that the curriculum shouldn't be shaped by outliers. Simple, factual and not attacking the person - just debating the point constructively.
This appears to be a reading and comprehension issue (possibly complex dyslexia if there's an autism diagnosis that early on in the kids life?), you perhaps could have stuck with that? I dunno, you do your thing. I'm just pointing out how needlessly rude you were.
No they made a specific insult and said I was against inclusion of children with disabilities in kapa haka groups.
I feel no need to be polite to people who hurl unwarranted insults at me and accuse me of being a bigot.
No that all happened after you questioned their education and called them sick.
Edit: read from here https://sh.itjust.works/comment/20376613
I called her sick because she wants to deny students books with maori words in them because her child has a learning disability.
I never said kids with disabilities of any kind should be excluded from any kapa haka group or anything else, she made that accusation out of the blue.
And look in your defence, they DID have a clumsily worded anecdote that was only tangentially related (and it took AGES to reveal the additional challenge these books created for their kid, was what they were getting at - I understand that).
I guess what I'm getting at is: attack their point - not the personality.
Needless to say, I'm over it...
Which is a weird thing to say because I never said anybody should be excluded from anything. It was you that wants to exclude maori words from school books.
You are asking for exclusion. Yon can't aim for the lowest denominator and ALSO to everyone else. This si what people are entry to explain. You are asking not for inclusion, but for privilege to by switched to YOUR CHILD instead of the others.
Yes they should be included, not by removing others.
I'm pretty sure here problem isn't your kid by now though.
Cheers.
This is clearly not true because you are defending and excusing this action. The minister absolutely wants to do it which is why she did it.
You should look up the meaning of that word.
Yea so has prevented those students from being exposed to maori words.
And again for no reason. Nobody was complaining about those words. Not the teachers, not the students, not the parents. The only reason she did this is because she is racist and she wants to throw a bone to the racists who vote for her party.
you experience is based on the fact that your child is suffering from a learning disability. You are demanding that because your child is incapable of dealing with maori words no child of the same age should be exposed those maori words. I am saying this is not just immoral and foolish but it's downright evil. We should not deny every student of educational materials that you child is unable to cope with.
Did you file a complaint with the school that they were exposing your developmentally disabled child to maori words?
you said your child was developmentally disabled.
Are they struggling with reading or struggling with only reading maori words?
That's the intent. The racist minister knows she isn't going to really be able to ban maori words from schools in her first go. She and her party has a long term vision to accomplish this goal and she is taking a small first step in the process.
I don't care about you or your child. I vehemently reject any effort to dumb down educational materials for every kid because your kids (or five of them if you are not lying) are struggling. Struggling kids should be put in special education classes so they can catch up. Under no circumstances should we slow down the learning of the 25 students to please you.