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[-] FuyuhikoDate@feddit.org 153 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Beging anti Israel is not the same as antijew...

One thing is Antisemite, the other is pro himan rights.

Edit: since my comment sended mixed messages... I am totally against the Person who did it... Just because they ordered kosher meal, does not mean, that the Person is pro israeal / against palestina. And yeah i think Too we need To free palestina from hamas and genocidal people.

But the thing with the food was a dick move.

Edit2: fixed typos from my dann Smartphone, since i didnt set up the english words on my keyboard

[-] fartographer@lemmy.world 186 points 1 year ago

Hi, Jew here. Allow me to demonstrate your stance.

Fuck Israel's genocidal campaign and everyone who supports it.

FIN

[-] FuyuhikoDate@feddit.org 28 points 1 year ago

❤️

More people need To think that way!

[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 1 year ago

I may not know that many Jewish people but all of my hebros and hebroettes oppose genocide.

[-] fartographer@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I know lots of Jewish people and most of them say they're anti-genocide and then say that this isn't a genocide. And if it is a genocide, then the Palestinians deserve it. I don't know if this belief is so pervasive because they're Jewish or because I'm from Texas with family in Israel.

All's I know is that most of the Jews I know would have been totally cool with Hitler as long as he wasn't killing too many Jews. I'm so fucking disappointed and disgusted by my family and community.

[-] DancingBear@midwest.social 4 points 1 year ago

You must know a lot of creepy Jews… wait until you meet the creepy Christians and Muslims

[-] bigFab@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago
[-] fartographer@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

You will regret that, but okay!

[-] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

It's like cartographer, but with more gas!

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 51 points 1 year ago

Yeah this is such a simple thing to argue against. The only jewish person that would be offended by a piece of paper with "free palestine" written on it is one that supports the Israeli genocide.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 year ago

Maybe it would be offensive if you are Jewish and you support Palestine? You might see it as an accusation against you? I dunno.

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 1 year ago

Not the best comparison, but if somebody sticks a "FCK NZS" sticker on my door at work, im not gonna think that they see me as a nazi.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 31 points 1 year ago

But maybe if you were the only German in the office you might be offended by the implication?

Do we know if they only put those stickers on specific peoples meals? Did they check if the people that got them were actually jewish? How would they know?

[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 25 points 1 year ago

Because they were kosher meals?

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah so? How do you know that they only put them on the kosher ones? This whole complaint runs off of a whole lot of assumptions.

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Because it's in the screenshot, open kosher online catering?

[-] elevenbones@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So your claiming that the non-kosher meals didn't have the sticker?

[-] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 13 points 1 year ago

What if they do actually see you as a Nazi though? Because I would wager that whoever wrote that message was expecting that the message would be read by a Zionist.

Don't get me wrong, I get what you're saying about not taking a sentiment personally if you know that you're not the intended audience. For example, I have many trans friends, who sometimes make jokes where cis people are part of the punchline. Although I'm cis, I don't take it personally because I know that being witness to the joke at all means that I am not the kind of person who is being joked about — indeed, it makes me feel privileged to be trusted enough to be within the "safe" bubble for my trans friends.

However, in this case, if I think about how I would feel if I were an anti-zionist Jew who received this meal, I'd feel pretty shitty because it would remind me of how gross it feels that Israel equating Judaism and the Israeli state makes Jewish people everywhere less safe; a fucked up side effects of Israel's atrocities is that even loudly anti-zionist Jewish people are at risk of increased antisemitism (genuine antisemitism, not just attacking the state of Israel and/or Zionist stances). It would feel shitty because no matter how loudly you scream "they do not speak for us" (an act that will get you condemned as being anti-Semitic, even if you're Jewish), Israel is not facing the kind of opposition that's necessary.

Part of how we resist Israel is by not letting them define themselves as synonymous with Judaism. I respect the intention of the person who wrote the message on the meal, but I believe the act itself to be misguided due to ultimately reinforcing Israel's preferred world view. It's important to remember that genuine antisemitism (i.e. stuff aimed at Jewish people rather than at Israel) is useful to Israel, because it helps them to manufacture consent for the ongoing genocide, and generally fuels the Zionist project

[-] GreenMartian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago

FCK NZS

What did the New Zealanders do to deserve this??

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago

They're hiding themselves from the cartographers for a reason, no doubt crimes

[-] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago

I'd say hell yeah fuck Nazis and use some spray fixative on it

[-] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Any reasonable person would see that as an accusation.

[-] DancingBear@midwest.social -2 points 1 year ago

Even in your example case, there is an ongoing genocide, being committed by the Israeli government, if this offends you… you’re probably an asshole

[-] MummifiedClient5000@feddit.dk 5 points 1 year ago

Are the terms "vomment" and "kosher Neal" typos? Because I like to think that they aren't.

[-] FuyuhikoDate@feddit.org 7 points 1 year ago

Typos because my dann phone tried type words in my Language....

[-] MummifiedClient5000@feddit.dk 7 points 1 year ago

They are words now, especially vomment. I can't wait to use it.

[-] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago

Agreed, that's an excellent new word. Cromulent even.

[-] FuyuhikoDate@feddit.org 5 points 1 year ago

I am really glad that i still could be velpful...

But srsly... Vomment isn't even a word in my language... Wtf keyboard? Wtf?

[-] bigFab@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Guys, it is apparently a 'severe antisemitic act'.

I mean, what can be more antisemitic than that treacherous food labelling as a country?

[-] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 year ago

One of Israel's goals is to equate Judaism with the state of Israel. Whilst I respect the intention of whoever wrote that note, they also are unwittingly playing into Israel's agenda.

There are many anti-zionist Jews, many of whom are some of the loudest voices pushing back against Israel. Let's be mindful of who our enemy actually is, because it is not the Jewish people

[-] bigFab@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

You made an excellent point, although it is missing a critical fact. Not that passengers are jewish, but that they are (probably) from Israel.

Forget about the media always highligting semitism. Criticism is directed to citizens who pay taxes fueling genocide. Nothing to do with semitism.

[-] tomenzgg@midwest.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not that passengers are jewish, but that they are (probably) from Israel.

Which article had you seen that indicated the passengers on the Buenos Aires to Madrid flight who'd asked for kosher meals were probably from Israel?

[-] theUwUhugger@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

That is tho what Israel is claiming, partly through divine provenance funnily enough

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