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Sounds like he wasn't trying to drug them, fortunately I guess. Either way the guy is still off his rocker.
Or, he was trying to drug them and the children found the drugs, so he tried to make them think it wasn't him.
At the very least, we know he had the drugs, and we know he put them in the ice cream where they could have been consumed by his granddaughters.
Unless he never tried MDMA before I doubt it. There is no way anyone that ever tasted mdma believes you can hide it in ice cream without the child immediately spitting it out
Let's all take a step back and recognize that this is not a man making thoughtful decisions. He put drugs in ice cream for his granddaughters. His thought process isn't likely to be anything we can fully comprehend.
Can you imagine being the parents here? "Honey, your dad slipped ecstasy into the girls' ice cream again. Could we please just go back to the Guatemalan babysitter?"
This is the take I've been looking for that has been strangely absent in the comments. Can you imagine if your partners dad did this?
If the ice-cream had bits in it they might have just not chewed on it enough to recognize a pill or taste ...
I don't believe for a second he did not have the intent of drugging them... most likely had in the back of his mind if they got very ill he'd get them to a hospital and still blame what they ate.
So you have also never tasted mdma. Even a tiny crumb will make you gag the second it touches your tongue
Yeah I try to avoid ingesting unhealthy drugs :-D
The incident is bad enough without trying to exaggerate it.
He was trying to frame people.
Inconclusive
Kind of depends on what is sold to someone as ecstasy. If its actual crystalline MDMA then it wouldnt be in a pill. It was probably 2CB which is often sold as ecstasy even though it isnt MDMA, the effects are somewhat similar enough. 2CB is generally a large and tasteless chalky pill
It was him. People on Dairy Queen salary don’t slip mdma into kids ice cream
How did you come to that conclusion?
They mean he set up the drugs to report and create some kind of spectacle, instead of adding them to drug the grandkids.
Intended to drug the ice cream, didn't intend to let the grandkids consume the ice cream.
Yeah about that, why not drug his own ice-cream or coffee, he'd be sure he could cause a ruckuss then. Now he planned to drug kids, "hoping" they'd notice it and taking the risk they wouldn't.
It's all very fishy.
He has to frame it to SAVE THE CHILDREN or some such.
Um ya, I dont buy that story at all
I certainly wouldn't trust him either, but fact is, he told the cops about the drugs he planted.
He could've just not done that, or drugged ice cream from a tub at home, or told the kids they're sprinkles or something.
To be its pretty clear that he didn't intend to directly harm the kids, and was "just" willing to put them into a stressful situation where an accident could have resulted in harm, anyway.
How do you come to this conclusion? Comment below you got it right. He tried to drug them, they found out, he tried to save face. Him approaching the officer first does not indicate his innocence.
Why would he choose those drugs if he was trying to drug them? They're stimulants.
They're... drugs. So yes, he (intended) to drug them. Who gives a fuck what the exact composition is?
These illegal stimulants could have harmed and even killed them. He put them in their ice cream, neither they nor their parents were aware and didn't consent to consuming the pills. Even if he intended to "catch" it, a million different things could have prevented that. He gambled with those girls' lives to create a fake political enemy. If he had done that to my kids, I would have had to resist retaliating against him, and I'm not even a parent!
I'm asking for his motive. I believe he put the pills in there because he wanted to make a scene about it. Not because he wanted them to ingest them. The article doesn't state how this was done, did the children ever possess the ice cream while it was contaminated? Or did he take them, plant the drugs, and head for the counter?
Either way he should have the book thrown at him for this and if there's more information out there and I'm wrong, fine but I just don't see how speculating that he intended to drug them makes sense given the facts presented in the article.
It happened. Unless the reporters received wrong information (which happens), he absolutely committed the crime, which is a felony. So no, he wasn't just "making a scene", and his intent doesn't matter, because again, those drugs could have still ended harming those children.
But I did edit my comment to clarify that he attempted to drug them, or at least there was the risk of that happening accidentally...
I read the article. Nothing about those quotes makes it clear that the ice cream was in possession of the girls after he drugged it. He could have given it to them or ordered it for them, making it "theirs", then taken it back to add the pills and make his scene. If he wanted to drug them why not just let them eat it? And why those drugs that don't produce any of the typical effects someone would want to drug someone for?
@lightnsfw@reddthat.com is making sense here. Throw the book at him and maybe have a psych eval done. Republican, so might as well check his computer for child porn.
That being said, spiking a kids ice cream with ecstasy pills makes no sense. It tastes awful, they would be hard to chew and an obvious foreign object in ice cream. If the girls didn't OD, they'd be bouncing off the walls.
I could see someone that doesn't actually know anything about drugs thinking this is a good way to frame someone. In reality, Drugs Are Really Expensive, as well as MDMA users/dealers generally not being willing to hurt children for nothing.