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On the spot, I can't think of anything we can learn from politicians. But the more policies National releases, the more I feel they don't put thought behind their policies. Someone said they didn't like something so they promise to get rid of it.
You've always got such a brilliant perspective on things, I love it
The only things we can really learn from politicians is what not to do. And even then if one has decency it wouldn't be required
I think we have to change the lens we use to think about some parties; National in particular. Unlike Act who are full on true-believers that legitimately think making a whole department redundant and shutting it down will magically make NZ better a big part of National doesn't really have an ideology anymore.
They're a party (like Labour in many ways - though they already did this) that are past their use by date and should have splintered and reformed into 2-3 other parties by now. But because they haven't National's main ideology is that National should be the government.
So when it comes to winning this election they probably feel that to a degree all they need to do is try to exploit the zeitgeist that Labour = cause of all the bad things and shut their mouths about most anything else.
In many other ways the bulk of the National party (ie the non-MP parts) really is the big C conservative - they don't want anything to change. And a big chunk of them are older and Pākehā so in particular any change that improves the situation for people who are not old and Pākehā is opposed.
What happens with National is that the MP and leadership bits are a lot more ideology driven - some of that is the Key sort of give rich people more riches, or the English side where he probably really did believe in trickle down stuff. And that's why when they actually have power they can have such an impact on the state of public infrastructure & services or the lives of poor people I guess even if their membership probably doesn't directly support a lot of it.