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[–] Tolc@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

revolutionaries will do it, just like the bolsheviks did.

[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The Bolsheviks relied on existing structures, functionaries and specialists because they HAD to. Nothing else was possible, they existed in the real world in the midst of a civil war, not some childish fantasy.

Trotsky aggressively recruited Tsarist military officers, many of which served without really aligning with Bolshevism.

And just a few other facts to add: world war, civil war, famine, coercion, mass violence, dependemce on inherited infrastructure and harsh repression. That's what you want for the US? Because real people, the ones not playing make believe on the internet, do not.

[–] Tolc@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

I never denied that revolutionaries in the US shouldnt utilize already existing state apparatus, do you even understand what collapsing means?

Change requires sacrifices, but american left thinks americans need to babysat into revolution, america is already inflicting civil war, famine, coercion, mass violence and harsh repression on many countries.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

you should study history instead of bullshit. only thing you got right in your profile is wannabe

[–] Tolc@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I am more aware about history than avg american lib whose ideology is shaped by pedophile billionaire owned media.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

yes, i am sure you are aware history exists. you need to actually learn what happened though.

[–] Tolc@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

ironical, youre literally an american

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

see how little it takes to make you admit you're a nationalist?

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago

I hate Nazi Germany, I guess I'm a nationalist

[–] Tolc@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

do you even know what nationalism means