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Tankies are so weird. I’m sure some of them are true believers, but I get the feeling most of them just want to watch the western world burn and kinda don’t care how it happens.
Well, and then there’s the fact that posts like this always get swarmed by users from .ml and other similar instances (around the time that the eastern hemisphere wakes up) with the message “both sides bad”
I'm sure there's also a population of tankies that don't understand truly what they are saying and are just vaguely repeating talking points from their favorite podcaster/streamer.
It would certainly explain why every argument with a tankie fits into 1 of about 6 of the same arguments with slightly different flavor.
That's definitely the case with my ex. He used to parrot the "Russia had to invade Ukraine because NATO! It was self defence!" and I'm pretty sure he was just parroting whatever he heard on Joe Rogan and the other far right rabbit holes that led him to.
I'm with them on the US at least, it has had way too much power to just trample anyone it feels like. Obviously not worth all the effects from what Trump has done but...
I struggle to understand how the collapse of the United States would do anything but make life worse for literally everyone on the planet for decades if not longer.
You want to make things better? Change the system from within slowly. You want to accidentally make things much much worse? Burn a system down and watch what emerges be horrible beyond what you could imagine.
It seems like a lot of them honestly think that if a liar says something, it must be a lie. They realized that our government lies, and immediately flipped everything they thought they knew to the opposite of what they thought it was.
"The US, which suppresses its own citizens, said that Russia, China, and North Korea suppress their own citizens? That must mean they're awesome! Ignore personal accounts from people who live or escaped from there, if the US says it's bad, it must be good, no question!"
Like, yeah, both sides are bad. Suppressing your citizens is bad. We need to be rising up as citizens across the world to take the power back from all dictatorial governments everywhere, not arguing about which one is the worst as if that makes the others better.
I get the feeling most of them just want to watch the western world burn and kinda don’t care how it happen
And if you aren't their specific brand of tank you can burn too.
Like when German communists helped the Nazis and worked against the social democrats, because reasons.
But to be fair: Some tankie cried to me that the social democrats deserved that. And the Jews. And the Gypsies. And Poland.
The KPD strat of declaring the SDP "social fascists" and refusing all cooperation was certainly a move. Maybe they shouldn't have waited until they were both in camps to work together.
What about when the libs worked with the nazis govt for decades?
It's hilarious that people still imagine libs to be some force for good.
Given I'm new to lemmy, I learned the difference between some of the instances. Specifically lemmy.ml 🙃.
"Nah man, someone with good policy but they're caucusing as a democrat? Don't vote for them, they're not calling for seizure of private property, they're all scams!"
So you want me...to vote for the conservative? Like, wut?
"Start your own revolution!"
Uh huh. I'm ready for the call, but just as Lenin himself argued, a single person like myself won't help the people dying right now that way...the first person killed wouldn't be a billionaire, it'd more likely be myself, friends, family, or neighbors given the state's monopoly on violence.
They told me to read State and Revolution. They weren't expecting me to have already read it 🙃
I fucking love this graphic
What the fuck is a tankie?
According to .world anyone to the left of Reagan.
Tankies think that anyone trying to fix the system instead of burning it down is a fascist.
I mean the system does need to be burned down. You can't fix a machine that's doing exactly what it was designed to do. You tear it down, maybe repurpose some of the parts, and build a different machine that doesn't do what the previous one did.
They told me to read State and Revolution. They weren’t expecting me to have already read it 🙃
Good, but what about Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism?
this page is a disaster
It’s political memes. Things are generally disastrous right now.
I've learned you do the same thing with tankies as you do MAGAts if they start to argue.
