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As part of the devs farewell message on their site, they have included malicious code to make each visitor sends 2,000 requests to the dbzer0 servers in an attempt to DDOS and take the instance offline.

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[–] Embargo@lemmy.zip 439 points 2 days ago (11 children)

I don't think I've ever witnessed someone going so hard off the rails. It's been an entertaining few days really.

[–] fartsparkles@lemmy.world 240 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

It’s what happens when someone with underdeveloped empathy gets caught doing something they know is wrong, resulting in emotional overload.

It’s textbook toddler tantrum.

With stunted empathy, people seeking an explanation and apology are met with increasingly greater resistance.

And like textbook, they claim to be the victim. I wouldn’t be surprised if they are lying about receiving death threats.

What’s crazy is they could have simply:

  • Apologised
  • Explained the intent to reduce toxicity
  • Agreed there was a lack of transparency
  • Refactored their existing “enable toxicity mode” feature into a clearer, toggleable blocklist feature

But no. They were caught while they were secretly trying to play internet dictator and refused to empathise with others that were hurt and shocked to find out a tool they were using was receiving undisclosed payloads to use to censor communities and individuals.

I strongly implore everyone to leave this developer alone. Jokingly asking to be added to the list etc empowers them to continue to play the victim. They do not deserve attention.

[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 74 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

What’s crazy is they could have simply:

  • Apologised
  • Explained the intent to reduce toxicity
  • Agreed there was a lack of transparency
  • Refactored their existing “enable toxicity mode” feature into a clearer, toggleable blocklist feature

Yes, I think there is genuinely an audience for what he was doing (or something akin to it), and it would genuinely have been a useful onboarding tool for getting a certain type of person to consider dipping their toes in the Fediverse.

But first of all it absolutely has to be separated from the safety/anti-spam filters. Bundling it with those is very malicious.

Second it must be opt-in.

Third, it must clearly say somewhere that "this anti-toxic setting is a curated block list based on my personal preferences". There should then have been an option to use a personal blocklist instead of the developer default.

And fourth, I guess ideally this type of filter should maybe have been maintained by a somewhat more... well-balanced individual.

[–] EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 102 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Anyone who thinks "yeah lgbt stuff should be hidden because we want to attract people who don't want to see LGBT stuff" is someone I don't want anywhere near the fediverse.

[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 45 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yes, agreed. Wholesome Yuri being banned might be the most outrageous decision of them all on the banlist, for me.

[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 1 day ago

Idk, "🥺👉👈" was pretty wild

[–] basxto@discuss.tchncs.de 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Tbh for me it was more outrageous how it interferes with moderation. There are admins from big instances who weren’t blocked themself and mods from big active communities on that list. If they write warning comments, users of this frontend will simply not see them

And tho user and comment regex is a mess, partially containing very random things. Lot’s of possible wrong matches. This whole thing is from no viewpoint a good idea

[–] T156@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 58 minutes ago) (1 children)

Also from the other end, because of how the filter works, mods using couldn't see messages the user put, so they'd have been free to do whatever, until caught by either a bot, or moderators not using the frontend.

One of the reasons it was found to begin with was because the db-zer0 instance was on it, and the admin, who was using tesseract, suddenly couldn't load any posts from the instance at all. As Tesseract presents it as a compatibility issue, they were trying to track down the fault at the time.

[–] basxto@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 37 minutes ago

Very good point, that’s horrible. And blocking "your own" instance is pretty dumb. I wonder if db0 would also not been able to read own posts if the instance wasn’t blocked.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Full agreement. Part of the problem is that the blocklist was kinda bonkers in who was included

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 57 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (9 children)

Refactored their existing “enable toxicity mode” feature into a clearer, toggleable blocklist feature

No! The whole point of the fediverse is not to have centralised blocklists. Having blocklists baked in to the code, especially ones that get updated in a centralised manner with no accountability and without telling users they're on it is absolutely antithetical to the platform and one of the main reasons why people are leaving reddit and coming here. If you want to curate the experience of a user in that manner, what you do is open an instance and advertise it as such. That way people can, at least on lemmy, know where they're banned from without having to dive into the code or pull API endpoints manually. In fact how a lemmy instance federates and how it curates this experience is one of the distinguishing features among the instances. You have instances like lemmy.zip that federate all that will have them, instances like hexbear that are very quick to defederate in order to keep a safe-space and instances like blahaj that are somewhere between.

A front-end (or any piece of code that is made for being deployed on multiple instances) should be agnostic to all of this. It's up to the admins of the instances and not the devs to curate and this is one of the main reasons why I don't trust the piefed dev. Sure you can disable almost everything, but that still means that an admin has to do work in order to get to a neutral place from where they can then curate.

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not every admin has the time or skill to curate. As long as the dev is open about it and there are configurable features to disable it, I don’t see what the issue is. Ultimately it creates no difference for a user if the admin creates it or the Dev does as long as it’s communicated.

The advantage of the fediverse is “don’t like it, go to another instance or build your own”, not to tell devs what they can and can’t do. Hell I never even interacted with Tesseract since I use a different client and an open instance.

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 day ago (6 children)

The issue is that it's one person shadowbanning people without their knowledge for any arbitrary reason across instances. Like even if it's opt-out, that's still problematic since it makes the default experience whatever that one person thinks it should be. Why should one guy get to decide across the entire fediverse whether your posts are opt-in? That is antithetical to the very concept of the fediverse.

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[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 6 points 1 day ago

I dunno, I can understand a curated blocklist, topic-based. Obviously not what this is - if things were up front it wouldn't have been an issue - but maybe someone just does not like memes. A curated meme community list would be handy. If someone didn't want to be on a more curated instance like blahaj but still wanted to filter out specifically problematic anti-trans users, that would be useful.

Just like its up to the users to decide what instance you want to join, it also should be up to the user to decide if they want to take that further, and a front end would be the appropriate place for that (especially since its not baked into lemmy or piefed to have an imported list).

The problem has nothing to do with the option of centralized blocklists, but the hidden nature of the one in tesseract in its entirety.

[–] artwork@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I am sorry, but I disagree with the "centralised blocklists" in a:

Decentralized social networking platforms...
Source

You should be able to block and unblock freely whoever and whatever you want.
The "centralized" may be suggestions (i.e., toggleable), and only, where instances with opt-in keep them implicit/optional, and instances with opt-out explicitly warn about them during a registration.

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[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Honestly, I can see a "curated" list of user/instance bans as a feature, similar to unlock. But let people chose them.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, either that or at least if everyone on the blocklist was like nazis or something it seems like he would've had at least half a leg to stand on. But the fact that the most random and benign users showed up on it and he was still trying to justify it as "making the experience better for the fediverse" showed that he was just some asshole completely convinced of his own righteousness.

[–] Embargo@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago

TIL that I'm benign... Ouch.

[–] Xerxos@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If he had just implemented the list as a default that anyone could edit, he would have gotten pretty much what he wanted. I mean, some people would have edited the list, some would have deleted the list, but most people are lazy or uninformed and would have simply accepted the default.

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[–] realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip 15 points 1 day ago

I wouldn’t be surprised if they are lying about receiving death threats.

100%. I'm willing to bet he didn't even receive any threats. The guy was a short-lived lolcow.

[–] Cenzorrll@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Text book narcissistic collapse

[–] amio@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

Refactored their existing “enable toxicity mode” feature into a clearer, toggleable blocklist feature

Not sure this would help in itself, even though more flexible blocking would ironically be nice. The value in such a list lies in how it's curated, and the guy is still certifiable and about 3yo mentally, tops.

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[–] volore@scribe.disroot.org 48 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I agree, I'm almost sad it's (presumably) over now.

Then again, he already "left" once before (and came back), so who's to say? We might be clowning on him on and off the rest of the year if he keeps it up.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I saw a vaguely similar situation a long time ago where someone was a positive, contributing member of the community and then they fell from grace somehow and basically no one was thankful enough so they were banned and they just kept evading the bans and posting smut in the forums for weeks.

The way this guy has really thrown his weight into this but still obviously feels like the victim is really reminiscent, I wouldn't be surprised if there's some more to come.

[–] Monument@piefed.world 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That’s weirdly sort of how I got my job.

Apparently my predecessor was a nice guy with low boundaries that (at the time) lacked managerial support. When he painted himself into a corner on his commitments, didn’t get the accolades or raises he thought he should get, he got bitter, started to act out, stopped doing work he should have done, and finally, when management started pressing him to clean up some messes he had created over a year+ of neglecting his responsibilities, he left an unsigned resignation letter on his desk and didn’t come to work for a few days.
He called to discuss the terms of his return, expecting a raise, and they just told him they accepted his resignation.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 14 points 2 days ago (4 children)

LOL. Sounds like an idiot. Even if the guy was really needed, you can't have someone like that on your team.

[–] RogueBanana@piefed.zip 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just another reminder, no one cares about you in the slave factory. Prioritize yourself over work and don't build up loyalty to a rich asshole.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Thats not really the right lesson to learn here.

Just have real, non-combative conversations with your colleagues and supervisors. Don't communicate with stupid games and manipulation.

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[–] Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hes probably writing a manifesto right now.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

They basically did, it shows to anyone that visits dubvee.

Which should only be viewed though an archive site as it could cause bad things to db0

And thankfully others already pulled the text so no one has too, but should still get it archived

https://lemmy.world/comment/24975427

Which should only be viewed though an archive site as it could cause bad things to db0

or with a JavaScript blocker

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 18 points 1 day ago (4 children)

It’s okay, they are a measured and non-violent individual that just wants Lemmy to be friendly for the “normies.”

They’re a good guy™︎!

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago

The idea that they are the standard-bearer for normal people.

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[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 9 points 1 day ago

Honestly it was pretty common on classic Reddit. Usually a modder. Often times a script kiddie/chrome extension.

It feels nice to see it here and it really takes me back.

[–] bl4ckp1xx13@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 days ago

Not for those of us on the dbzer0 instance 😭

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