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Gonna buy one, gotta support the cause. We need this phone to do well.
Edit: @plyth@feddit.org pointed out that Motorola is in fact split into two separate companies. The phone company is effectively Lenovo, so Chinese, and not related to the American surveillance technology branch.
Not sure I'd trust Lenovo/Motorola Mobility either, but that's a different story.
~~The main thing you're supporting is Motorola, the second biggest provider of surveillance technology in the US after Flock. Deflock lists 5% of the cameras as Motorola, but the share is increasing as backlash against Flock is growing and Flock cameras are replaced with more low key competitors.~~
~~404media has reported on how Motorola cameras are used by ice.~~
~~"Gotta support the cause" is one hell of a dangerous sentiment under capitalism.~~
Damn I guess most of us didn't know that, thank you for sharing.
They're keeping a low profile on their surveillance technology while successfully marketing themselves as a privacy alternative in consumer tech. Its pretty fascinating to watch. I wouldn't blame anyone for missing it.
It's also worth reading up on Aviglon, a subsidiary of Motorola specializing in surveillance technology.
Different company?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola
Fitting how the US part of the company does more survellance than the Chinese part
Or so we hope, anyway.
GrapheneOS' cause is only theirs. They don't share with the ecosystem
You're supporting diva devs selling out.
We don't need GOS to do well. We need a fully open ecosystem for phone operating systems. GOS devs don't let anyone incorporate their code.
They also refuse to provide basic functionality like inverted navbar buttons. Because they're diva devs.
False
This is supported in AOSP now.
This doesn't seem like a mature thing to say just because you want to flip buttons and are annoyed that the privacy and security-focused project didn't add a feature to flip buttons.
Is it not open source?
It's open source, but the license agreement prohibits using it in other projects. You can do it for your own personal builds, but not any published builds.
That's very false. There are other OSes with GrapheneOS code or forks of GrapheneOS.
so, literally not open source by the OSI's definition, great