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[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 5 hours ago

If outlets were to be believed, major cities like Tehran featured a cosmopolitan atmosphere with active café culture, Western fashion, and mixed-gender socialization.

And how much if at all did that change in the meantime? With a source please.

Women gained the right to vote in 1963, pursued higher education in large numbers, and worked in professional fields like law, medicine, and government without any mandatory dress codes.

Still do on all counts, dress code aside, though I have to question how important the right to vote is under either brutal dictatorship. For instance here's how the women's tertiary education graph looks like, noting that the Shah was overthrown in 1979. This is Iran, not Afghanistan. Also in general "modernity" under the Shah only penetrated into the upper class of society; ironically the vast majority of women saw more improvement in hallmarks of women's rights (education and such) under the Ayatollahs.

[-] belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 hours ago

Women's education is quite literally the only improvement in terms of women's rights.

Women are forbidden from divorcing their husbands without cause, their testimony is worth less in court, married women have to leave their job if the husband deems this necessary, they can only have one husband (men can have 4 wives and up to 95 additional temporary wives), premarital sex has more grave consequences for women than for men etc. Most egregiously, if a woman is murdered, it's up to their next male living relative, if the murderer gets prosecuted. And if they decide on a blood money settlement, women are worth half as much as man.

Women are legally considered second class citizens in Iran. No amount of education fixes this.

[-] Viceversa@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

dress code aside

Why aside?


And about education it's worth noting, that the UNESCO Institute for Statistics does not deploy it's own researchers to count students. Instead, its global database relies on states self-reporting their national figures.
https://uis.unesco.org/sites/default/files/medias/fichiers/2025/08/WG_EMIS_2_Dynamic-Templates.pdf

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io -1 points 4 hours ago

Why aside?

Because this is something that changed after the Shah. The other things didn't, that's my point.

Instead, its global database relies on states self-reporting their national figures.

And do we have reason to doubt Iran's figures? They have no reason to fake them, and in any case the decline from 2014 isn't something you'd find in doctored data. Besides, again this isn't Afghanistan; the Iranian regime has no problem with women's education.

[-] Viceversa@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

They have no reason to fake them,

As well as my government (Russia) have no reason to hide or skew the number of casualties our bloody "leader" caused. Right?

I'm sorry I'm resorting to sarcasm, but I don't believe in the honesty of the tyrannical regimes.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 3 hours ago

As well as my government (Russia) have no reason to hide or skew the number of casualties our bloody "leader" caused. Right?

Except it does have a reason to skew the number of casualties.

I don't believe in the honesty of the tyrannical regimes.

Without a concrete reason to doubt them in this case, or evidence that they're lying, what you believe in is frankly irrelevant. If they're reliable enough for the UN, they're reliable enough for me; what's your evidence that they're lying?

[-] Viceversa@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Without a concrete reason to doubt them in this case

Why this case is special?

what's your evidence that they're lying?

Their totalitarian lips are moving.

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