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[-] nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 45 points 2 days ago

Technically, when installing a fitgirl rip, it is doing an extraction only, just with some extra UI elements and other features like installing dependencies.

[-] RiQuY@lemmy.zip 24 points 2 days ago

With the added complexity that it can fail for reasons I don't comprehed. If it was just extracting that wouldn't fail under any circumstances.

[-] morto@piefed.social 16 points 2 days ago

With the added complexity that it can fail for reasons I don’t comprehed

The lovecraftian installer

[-] DdCno1@beehaw.org 8 points 2 days ago

The only times it has failed on me was because either the storage device or RAM were faulty. It's definitely worth it to check both for errors every once in a while, as financially devastating as it is to replace either.

[-] CyberTerry@leminal.space 0 points 2 days ago

It's your RAM bro

[-] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

why does it require admin rights to run, then? right at startup, and if you try to run it with a tool that fakes admin rights, it will crash (unlike other installers it can successfully make run)

[-] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 days ago

They need admin privileges to write to directories such as C:/Program Files, if I had to guess - I didn't need privileges when installing Halo: Combatevolved Butworse on Linux

[-] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

but I always installed them on my other drive where it did not need such privileges. it works on linux because here everything runs as admin (in the wine world, it's not admin in the linux world)

[-] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago

It's not that Wine runs things as an administrator, Wine emulates the Windows virtual filesystem by creating and using a directory in your home (by default), which means you own the entire thing;

with Windows, if you have a separate drive and *you* create a folder in it, even if you call it "Program Files", it's going to let you access it freely because it's yours.
However, the existing Program Files folder in your OS drive (C: by default, idk if you can change its volume letter) is owned by... I have no idea, actually, but it's a system account, not yours.

The last paragraph may be inaccurate, I was much less tech literate when I was still daily-driving Windows.

[-] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's not that Wine runs things as an administrator

yes, it is that

Wine emulates the Windows virtual filesystem by creating and using a directory in your home (by default), which means you own the entire thing;

I was always installing fitgirl games to my other drive, where I owned the entire thing. I know because I remember I set the ownership.

However, the existing Program Files folder in your OS drive (C: by default, idk if you can change its volume letter) is owned by... I have no idea, actually, but it's a system account, not yours.

The last paragraph may be inaccurate, I was much less

I have never installed fitgirl games there.

[-] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago

I'll trust you on the Windows side of things, but you ought to explain how Wine is running things with admin privileges

[-] jdr@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

Wine acts as if it has admin on the Windows side, but that's unrelated to admin on the Linux host, very likely wine is just running with user privileges there.

[-] katze@lemmy.4d2.org 4 points 1 day ago

You are misunderstanding him. Wine has not implemented any UAC dialogue like windows; when the application requests it, it just gets "elevated" as if the user had pressed that UAC button under windows; but Wine does this automatically, as there is no need for something like that.

As stated in comment 50, applications requiring unelevated privileges can be run directly, without the need for "runas" or any similar manual intervention.

https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40613#c50

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