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[–] Floofah@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A good question. The recidivism costs I guess are what most, me included, will view as a valid reason to continue imprisonment for serious offences.

[–] deadbeef79000 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Me too.

Society has a limit to how much of "crime X" they'll tolerate.

Some should be exactly one: murder, rape, toture, etc. I'd argue that provable attempts at those count as one, so the threshold is actually less than one.

I feel like pretty much everything else can be "civil" consequences:

  • financial crimes: forbidden from holding a position with fiduciary responsibility, repayment, punitive damages.
  • theft: restitution, punitive damages, restraining orders

What I'm really unsure about is, arguably, progenitors to violence:

  • drink driving? Lose license, curfew? What happens when they do it again and hurt someone?
  • harassment? Restraining orders? What happens when it escalates?

Just to throw a few into discussion.

[–] Floofah@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It’s a tough call in deciding the seriousness of an offence when deciding the consequences, especially when it is a repeat. The costs of incarceration are huge, yet it seems to be needed to hopefully discourage the more serious crimes.