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submitted 4 days ago by Sibbo@sopuli.xyz to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

I know that I can simply make my own private certificate authority that only I and my family trust. But is there some public provider like letsencrypt that is in a free-er part of the world than the US?

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[-] thericofactor@sh.itjust.works 29 points 3 days ago

That the U.S. government can arbitrarily take down websites by revoking certificates issued by let's encrypt? How obvious can it be? I wondered the same thing as OP months ago. We need european alternatives. I think there are some, have some bookmarked somewhere.

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago
[-] Randelung@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Huh, FF on Android doesn't care.

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Most browsers don't, hence my calling revocation a joke.

So many in this thread are up in arms about something the majority of browsers don't care about and have actively ignored for as long as I can recall

[-] Randelung@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Yeah, I was just surprised bc the page explicitly lauds FF for checking revocation.

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

It may only be the desktop version, most mobile browsers aren't as feature complete as their desktop counterparts.

But, given Google ripped revocation checking out of chromium, I wouldn't be surprised if they nerfed it in Android too...

[-] DegradationDenial@feddit.nl 5 points 3 days ago

If the certificate only lasts two months revocation isn’t necessary, just deny recertification.

[-] Viceversa@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

And what if you need to get a new certificate?

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -2 points 3 days ago
[-] Dirk@lemmy.ml 23 points 3 days ago

That’s the question of this thread. Yes.

[-] Alfredolin@sopuli.xyz 30 points 3 days ago

Aren't we back at OP's question?

[-] T4V0@lemmy.pt 1 points 3 days ago

Orion browser (maybe safari?) on iOS detected the revoked certificate, and asked me to confirm before accessing the website while warning about the dangers.

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Does regular safari show the same prompt? Afaik, browsers on iOS are safari reskins, so I'm curious if they added his cert in directly again, or if the onion browser actually follows standards the os browser doesn't.

[-] T4V0@lemmy.pt 2 points 3 days ago

Yes, but safari doesn't even let me ignore the warning, it has a explanation in detail, and only allows closing the website.

[-] dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

You didn’t look hard enough. My router cert isn’t valid and I have to bypass the warning every time.

[-] T4V0@lemmy.pt 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Maybe there’s a special case for local subnets?

Here’s what shows up for me (in portuguese):

Safari browser invalid certificate warning page.

Clicking on more details, only allows me to check the certificate:

Safari browser detailed information for invalid certificate warning.

Here’s the translated details:

Safari warns you when a website has an invalid certificate. This can happen if an attacker has compromised your connection. For your protection, you cannot visit this site. You can check later to see if the problem has been solved. You can also contact the site owner to report this error.

To learn more, you can see the certificate.

Said certificate:

iOS invalid certificate information.

Edit: on the latest iOS version (27) btw.

[-] dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

Thanks for the proof! I stand corrected! I see basically the same but after the view link there is another think that bypasses it.

Must be difference between expired vs compromised cert.

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