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For some reason its normal this lady can drive. Yep, sure thing, we'd help you open a door for worry of your frailty but you can totally chuck an 8 ton hunk of metal down the road.
Holy shit, a blind old lady driving a giant SUV kills a pedestrian and keeps driving...
Americans: "Yeah, that's normal."
Getting killed by a granny that didn't even notice the fact that she killed you and drove away home all jolly is some horror movie material.
She belongs in congress.
She reminds me of that one american politicians who murdered a person by driving her car into then in Europe, didnt notice it, and then left europe when charges were brought against her lol.
Sounds like Anne Sacoolas, who forgot which side of the road to drive on in the UK, killed someone, and then got spirited away to live life consequence free: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Harry_Dunn
But the US has a proud tradition of such. Only last month they whisked someone to safety in the US rather than have them arrested for kiddy porn: https://nypost.com/2026/09/13/world-news/us-diplomat-extracted-from-london-after-feds-allegedly-discover-child-porn/
And if you suggest we should add public transit so that 82 year olds have a reasonable option other than driving, everyone acts like you’re ableist as if people whose disabilities make driving more dangerous don’t exist at all.
The problem with public transportation in the US is that black people will use it. That means the old white lady is going to fight paying for it and then take her own car anyway.
This is the answer.
I live in a conservative area and I've literally gotten political fliers in the mail from two different republican local campaigns bickering over who's the most against public transportation.
One of them said "So-and-so would fund a new bus station that would allow those people from the city to come to our town!"
The other one's response was basically "Whats-his-face is a liar! So-and-so only suggested funding and renovation of an existing bus station which doesn't have a route to the city. It wouldn't bring those people from the city here at all!"
To me, reading that just felt like the entire county's racism on full display...
Um what??? What in the classist world did i read???
Describing other people's classism is not itself classist.
Also the statement was more about racism than class, anyway
There are those who would downplay the difference, but that's a discussion for a different community. (In general, at least. The effects of environmental racism on transportation/land use/urbanism specifically would be on-topic, however.)
You're not wrong.
Yup, and in many states it's legal for blind people to own guns.
When I hear of people like this driver, it reminds me of the quote from Coming to America: "Imagine a country so free one can throw glass in its streets." It's meant as a joke in the movie, but for me, it's actually a really great way to describe our concept of freedom.
At least blind gun owners won't shoot based on skin colour.
I saw a commercial where a blind veteran used those Meta spy glasses everybody hates to ask where the flag was so he could salute it.
So, "Hey Meta, where is the intruder?"
That's such a wild mental image, I could imagine it in a movie
Hero name: Deadeyes
Why shouldn't blind people be allowed to own guns. Transferable machine guns have been a way better investment than bonds for essentially their entire legal existence. There are plenty of legitimate reasons blind people should be allowed to own guns.
No there aren't, lmfao
Guns shouldn't be investments either
Ironically, the guns the other commenter is talking about became investments because the ban on them restricted the supply.
But that's getting off-topic, so if anybody reading this wishes to discuss guns further please start a thread in a different community.
one sad thing is that, as american vehicles go, a 2013 Edge is not very offensive. sure, it's not a Corolla, but it's not a full size
it's a CUV with inoffensive tech. not too big, not too heavy, not too blinding or distracting. not that that saved the victim..
Yeah, I was looking to see what type of street-legal APV allowed her to run over a full adult skater without noticing, but I guess this one was just decent suspension and zero awareness left in her bones.
In my opinion I already know there’s gonnabe some landmark study or studies thst comes out that proves thst people at or around the ages of 70-75+ should not be driving at all since people of this age tend to lack coordination , reaction time, and awareness of many of the driving related events happening around them.
I wish I had compiled it but something Ive noticed is that in hit-and-run stories is thst you will find a disturbingly common trend of seeing that a very old senior ‘hit something or someone’ , ‘never noticed it was there before’, ‘and kept on going cause they thought it was nothing’ .
There comes an age when you just have to accept thst youre just too old to do some things. Not a single paid athlete in basketball anywhere in the world has been able to stay io that profession past the age of 50… there is a reason for this…
Never allow your ego to betray your understanding of humanity and your understanding of biology.
Since several years ago, Japan requires people of a certain age (75 IIRC) to take special classes to continue driving. I think there may be some other tests, but less sure on that. In the deep countryside, there isn't always another option at any reasonable cost (especially to pensioners), which can create problems
In America, you get at least on free kill with your vehicle. Age is rather irrelevant except she waited longer than others to claim her's.
You're supposed to be tested when you renew your license, but the renewal period is anywhere from four to twenty-five years, with some places even longer. If you are not renewing your license they neeed an incident to reevaluate your ability to drive.
On the one hand it's good that they have less control over locing down the ability of people to move around, especially since we have almost no rail lines, horrible public transit, and roads that are dangerous to bike or walk on.
On the other.... You have to hurt someone, or damage something, in order to be told "Okay, grandpa, time to hang up the keys."
My own grandfather is a danger on the road. He's slowly losing his faculties, which is always tragic but doubly so because this was a deep intellectual. But trying to convince him that it's really time to stop driving has been... a challenge, shall we say. There's really only so much you can do in a legal sense.
Show him this article!
Maybe someone should 'lose his keys' for him 😘
Aye , you might be saving his life and the life of like 5 other people on the road 🤷🏿♂️
We allow it for the very fact that without a vehicle an 80 year old person is essentially being given a death sentence in most cities in our country.
I am all for requirements of driver's license test be met past a certain age. But, we need to acknowledge that it's not just that. Seniors need alternative methods of transportation. They are driving because that's all they can do.
Whether this is basic public transportation or major expansion of senior specific door to door transport systems. We can't just "ban them". Because then the problem will just be a bunch of seniors just driving without a license or dying alone in their home because they didn't get their medication that day.
Even an 80 your old person who can't have food and drugs delivered still does not need to drive a 4000lbs SUV. There are much safer alternatives. We can quite reasonably just "ban them" from driving unnecessarily dangerous vehicles.
If old people are going to be allowed to drive it should have to be smart cars or something, that way if they’re going to fuck around it will be them smeared 200m across the highway, not innocent victims