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cross-posted from: https://quokk.au/c/world/p/1191953/us-to-build-two-military-bases-in-greenland-under-new-deal-with-denmark

The defence deal signed at the UN General Assembly also re-affirms Denmark's sovereignty over its semi-autonomous Arctic territory.

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[-] SmoothOperator@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago
[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

Because 1. You're avoiding the bad thing maybe forcefully happening by guaranteed allowing it to happen and 2. You are inviting bad things to happen again because you have shown you will allow it.

[-] SmoothOperator@lemmy.world 0 points 22 hours ago

You're avoiding the bad thing maybe forcefully happening by guaranteed allowing it to happen

Oh, an invasion would be so, so much worse than two more military bases. Dead soldiers, broken alliances, the future of the Inuit people lost.

You are inviting bad things to happen again because you have shown you will allow it.

The establishment of US bases in Greenland has been expressly allowed since 1951. This is nothing new. Threats and grandstanding have achieved nothing which couldn't have been achieved easier and with better publicity through collaboration.

[-] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 0 points 22 hours ago

I can't really explain with logic what is being misunderstood due to naivety.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

Isn't naivety the block to understanding that's MOST receptive to being resolved by new information?

[-] SmoothOperator@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

Don't give up before you've even tried!

I'm perfect able to follow a logical argument, but I may indeed not be able to see what you consider obvious until you point it out.

[-] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

I think you're fucking with me playing dumb.

There's no way you don't understand, even if you don't agree.

But if you aren't....would you let foreign war equipment into your country from a country that had threatened to take you by force?

Obviously not.

Greenland is done unless MAGA is stopped, full stop.

Edit: I disagree with your premise that they could have gotten the same results without the threats, therefore this must be benign. At least that's what I think you're saying.

[-] SmoothOperator@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

I think you're fucking with me playing dumb.

I'm not. I've followed the US in Greenland with interest for a long time, and read the analyses of the recent deal. I don't think my position is dumb. The US have been flirting with the annexation of Greenland since WW2, and Danish diplomatic counter strategy has always been to allow the US unfettered military access in return for acknowledging that Greenland is part of the Danish kingdom and will remain so. Trump has messed with this relationship, but it is now more or less normalized (for now). This is the best Denmark could've hoped for, realistically.

Would you let foreign war equipment into your country from a country that had threatened to take you by force?

There was already plenty there. And Denmark couldn't defend Greenland if the US invaded, doesn't matter if there is one or three military bases there.

I disagree with your premise that they could have gotten the same results without the threats, therefore this must be benign.

Denmark has been bending backwards for decades to serve as loyal vassals to the US. They joined their illegitimate wars without question. If the US asked for two more bases and whatever else is in the agreement, they would have gotten it.

[-] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeasement

Edit: Of particular relevance:

Appeasement can be seen as promoting frozen conflicts and rewarding aggression from a game-theoretical point of view.[134] If the defensive player is willing to appease, the offensive player is incentivised to create the conditions to be appeased by their opponent.

[-] SmoothOperator@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I am familiar with the concept. What's the point you're trying to make, exactly? How does it fit into the context I laid out above?

I could try to guess your implied point, but I don't think that's useful for the conversation.

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