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[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 days ago

They haven't defeated any forces. Or do you mean the US because Trump wouldn't get involved?

[-] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Correct. Russia and China have effectively defeated the USA portion of NATO because I truly believe Trump and the GOP would refuse summons from an Article 5.

Russia and China are the reason Trump is president.

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 days ago

Maybe. Trump's power is waning, and it's hard to predict exactly what he would do anyway. It's likely democrats will control congress next year and can send aid. If Europe can hold out until 2029, a different president might be more willing to provide active support.

If Europe can hold out until 2029

Why would anyone who considers Europe an advarsary wait until they rebuild their militaries?

During the first impeachment hearings Dr. Hill said a lot of things that are worth remembering. One of those things is that Russia had a plan for whichever candidate won the trump v clinton election.

[-] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

With 53 GOP senators Trump is all powerful in the USA. They already purged the military generals and the rest of the federal government employees.

Resistance is coming from local and state levels which means fuck all for NATO.

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