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[-] Texas_Hangover@lemmy.radio 173 points 4 days ago
[-] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 196 points 4 days ago

It's a wild thing. So the term grew out of the manosphere actually, it was mainly a term for present fathers who steered their boys away from that garbage because they recognized it was only going to hurt them. It kind of grew from there to encapsulate everything they hate. Now, they associate beards with hipsters, dads, LGBT+, nerds who like games, music, books, theatre, and basically any man with a soul and two brain cells to rub together, which is precisely who they see as the enemy because they're so transparently evil.

[-] killea@lemmy.world 151 points 4 days ago

So basically a wholesome father with a big bushy beard.

[-] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 100 points 4 days ago

Exactly. They've been working real hard to make it about gas masks in the military, which is a thing, but that's not why they're going off about it. "Beardos and Weirdos" specifically is a dog-whistle for men who actually have honestly held values, don't consider sex, violence, and substance abuse the point of life, and try to be a mentor, a partner, a part of a community or who otherwise contradicts their narrow, machismo-laced, lecherous and reductive definition of "Man."

[-] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 51 points 4 days ago

Look here now, a man can enjoy sex, violence, and substance abuse(not necessarily in that order) a whole lot without it becoming a part of their personality. Plenty of us are happy to be degenerates in private

[-] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago

No it’s just a racist dog whistle. By far the group that gets the most facial hair waivers in the military are black men. They just don’t want blacks in the military anymore.

[-] Enkrod@feddit.org 16 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

To explain the facial hair wavers to my fellow straight-hair-phenotypes: forcing to shave too closely, can lead to really big, painful infections and scars from ingrown hairs if you have curly-phenotype hair.

You can shave close enough for a gas mask to work, but in an organization that had its rules build around the bodily and cultural "normal" of white people, you might still need a facial hair waver.

[-] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Yeah the waivers are definitely a good thing. Black men often have very coarse, tightly wound facial hair. Some of the dudes I served with would get the worst ingrowns and without a waiver they'd still have to just shave over them, causing nasty sores.

[-] killea@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago

Oh ya I get it, just wanted to shorten your more complex definition for some folks. I can hardly comprehend the amount of fucking idiocy and blind hate occurring in the us gov right now. They shit all over the so-called values they very vaguely pretend to support.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Idk which they hate more: attentive loving husbands and fathers or people who actually use freedom

[-] EntheoNaut@lemmy.ml 16 points 4 days ago

Username checks..

GreenBeardo!

[-] JamieDub86@piefed.social 4 points 3 days ago

Do you think his beard is green or is he a green person with a beard?

[-] jve@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

Holy shit I’m inadvertently outing myself as giving a shit about people.

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 days ago

Damn, and here I was thinking it was about no-shave chits (which has racial undertones, because black men are more prone to razorbumps (basically ingrown hairs which can be extremely painful)).

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[-] TheCriticalMember@aussie.zone 14 points 4 days ago

Basically, the stereotypical image of the man they want to be little spoon for.

[-] m4xie@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 days ago

How Freudian of them

[-] cinoreus@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago

How active is this hegseth on 4chan? How come he knows this stuff but I don't?

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 days ago

Because he's an actual loser, not somebody like you just pretending to be uncool for internet cred.

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago

Has anyone told them that they can take estrogen to lose those peaky beards?

[-] m4xie@lemmy.ca 19 points 4 days ago

Unfortunately it doesn't work like that. The change to the follicles is permanent, one needs laser hair removal or electrolysis to destroy each one.

That's not to say someone couldn't tell them...

[-] crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 4 days ago

Specifically in the military it refers to those in favor of loosening facial hair standards beyond just tiny mustaches, plus some service members that discovered and successfully exploited the "Heathen loophole."

Really it's just Pete's preference toward big burly white hairless men that will follow his commands.

[-] m4xie@lemmy.ca 14 points 4 days ago

A tiny mustache that fits under a gas mask 🤔

[-] crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Fun fact: a full beard fits under a gas mask too.

Because technology has improved somewhat since 1945.

edit: wait that was another sex thing wasn't it

[-] ArchAengelus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 4 days ago

I think it was a Hitler thing?

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[-] Texas_Hangover@lemmy.radio 16 points 4 days ago

First I've ever heard of it. I am in fact, a Dad with a beard lol.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Fucking wild. "What an unmasculine loser, he's raising his children, that goes against my family values".

[-] Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

People who didn't use their disposable razor subscription scam

[-] dumples@piefed.social 9 points 4 days ago

That's me. I have a new term to call myself: Beardo

[-] nullspace@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

That really explains why chuds hate Kratos so much.

[-] antheraeavx@slrpnk.net 8 points 4 days ago

Great explanation. Ashamed to say I would have thought it was another term for 'neckbeard' judging only by the sound of it lol

[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago

I swear to god, it's like they distilled Jon lajoie's satire into modern standard

[-] baronvonj@piefed.social 7 points 4 days ago

And my sexual performances are average!

yeah, I'd say they nailed it.

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[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

Never been prouder to sport my beard.

[-] TeaWithDani@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Oh, the men who actually get laid. Couldn't have that!

[-] abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 days ago

So basically they made up a made for the type of men who opposed their bullshit and moved their sons away from it and now the Head of the Defence department is using that exact language.

Fuck.

[-] E_coli42@lemmy.world 43 points 4 days ago

A beard or long hair for men has always been a sign of rejection of conforming to social authority.

Hair is the best symbol of rebellion as it is difficult to defect from, takes a long time to grow long, and is accessible to everyone. You can recognize a hippie with their tie-dye shirt and reflective sunglasses. They signal to themselves and others that they are opposed to the Vietnam war and the establishment in general. But when they go to the office, for a swim, to the gym, etc. they go back to conforming to the rest of society. The hippie with long hair is at all times signaling their rejection to the establishment and is also signaling that they have been rejecting this for many years. The hippie who only commits to the tie-dye shirt and sunglasses can take it off when under scrutiny and put it back on when convenient.

Hair has no nerve cells. Cutting hair is completely painles. If someone won’t even listen to authority telling them to cut their hair, what makes you think they’ll listen to authority for anything else? Long hair subconsciously scares authority because the legitimacy of said authority is constantly challenged. This is my hypothesis for why being clean shaven and short hair has become a requirement in many militaries, but never a militia. It is the easiest way to get someone to subconsciously be comfortable with submitting to authority.

Some examples of "beardos" who use their hair as a symbol of rebellion:

  • Koreans during Japanese Imperialism
  • The Khalsa
  • Indian saints, regardless of religion
  • Hippies in the US
  • Brazilian communists during the dictatorship
[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Very true for many cultures. But it's also important to understand that for many Native American men it's rebellious in a very different way. Many tribes saw it as manly for a man to have long hair, and by growing it out it can be a rebellion against the demands of cultural surrender placed by white society

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[-] baronvonj@piefed.social 30 points 4 days ago

Jesus. Jesus was a beardo. A real socialist hippie kind of guy in sandals and robes and long hair and a beard.

[-] marduk@lemmy.today 18 points 4 days ago

I hear that guy did unto others as he would have them do unto him; disgusting!

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago

To be fair, Jesus would only be useful in a military if he abandoned his principles and went Doctor Manhattan on everybody.

[-] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Nah, the guy who whipped money changers outside the temple and said “sell all your possessions and buy a sword to defend the poor” would do just fine. He was canonically into peace, but not pacifism

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[-] Carrots@quokk.au 6 points 4 days ago

A person who has a big beard—o

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