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Simon Pegg on the Cornell Rapists
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This seems like an odd thing to say. Like it doesn't matter if it's true or not, just which "team" is saying it.
I'm personally at 0% risk of slipping into the manosphere, but can you see how this sort of talk would push somebody more vulnerable into it? All I've said is that men are treated differently because they're suspected of being rapists and according to this thread I'm a) a conservative (nope) and b) part of the problem (i.e. I'm a rapist?). I'd never usually say anything because I know this is the way discussions always go, but I guess I was feeling ambitious today.
I just think it's fair to be upset about being treated differently because of the way you were born. You can't immediately start pigeonholing people if they show the slightest annoyance at being treated like a rapist.
Framed this as a question because YMMV. I've seen this take in manosphere-adjacent spaces as a response to whatever allegations are in the news. "Oh, now all men are rapists, huh?" or something like that. Without addressing the allegation itself, of course. It's like they are creating this monster that just loves ruining men's lives by wrongly accusing them of rape. It happens, yeah, but it's not the point, the point is to radicalize men into thinking that women are not equal to men.
I've met people (usually having traumatic experiences) who really think that "all men" are whatever. But this is an outlier in my book. In social media this point can be exaggerated (plus, "controversial opinion = engagement" plague) so I guess it can influence some people's opinions and views. But I still think the majority of people are not as radical.
Whining about being part of the same group that most rapists belong to when the overarching conversation is about how we prevent horrific crimes like gang rape is a choice a lot of men are making in here.
I don't think that's fair to say at all. The image you posted is specifically about #notallmen.
It also says of course it's not all men, that's not the point. The point is, it's a lot of men....
You tell me. What group of people has the most rapists?
It's not all men. But to ignore that most rapists are men is to be willfully ignorant and changing the conversation from 'how do we prevent' to 'soothe the men who aren't rapists because they feel bad that other men are rapists'.
Nothing you said is wrong there, I'm just saying it sucks on our end too. It sucks that women would rather walk past a bear than me, purely because of the way I was born. Sucks that if I mention being upset about it I get told that "I'm the reason she picked the bear". So much vitriol. I can handle it but I know lots of men can't and end up in Andrew Tate's lap. This entire thread is a perfect example. It's not helping.
And I know you're probably going to reply and say that women have it worse because they get raped, and you're right, but it doesn't make me feel any better the next time a woman gives me a wide berth in the park for no other reason than my gender.
You know what sucks? Being held down and forcibly raped against one's will. And then your rapist not seeing any time in court or jail and allowed to attend the same university where you are trying to get your own education without being fucking traumatized. And yeah this is a predictable response because yeah, I get it sucks when someone is wary of you, but you can't empathize with that at all? That being raped is so much worse than someone giving you space on the sidewalk because they don't know you?
There's a lot of this in this thread - blaming women for being scared of being raped for pushing men into being even more misogynistic and hateful towards women.
When are men going to accept some fucking responsibility here?
If you aren't a rapist, then why are you so offended when women who don't know you give you a wide berth? They aren't doing it to attack you. They're doing it to protect themselves.