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[-] velma@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago

This post is framing the conversation around preventing rape and specifically says it is not all men.

The majority of rapists are men though.

[-] ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip 0 points 11 minutes ago* (last edited 9 minutes ago)

You

rapists rather than focusing on how we reduce rape,

Me

Okay, lets focus on reducing rape then. Gives an example.

Also you

The majority of rapists are men though.

Okay. Can we get back to taking about reducing rape? I gave a proposal, an okay analysis of one facet of it, do you have an opinion on it? Your own thoughts? If you do not want to share them, then that is also okay, but I do believe sincerely that calling "we should focus on it" and then not focusing on it, is not going to be helpful.

[-] velma@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 minutes ago

The conversation is framed on shaming and bullying all men, because some men are rapist. Why are you surprised that many react negatively to it?

No, let's be clear here. You are complaining that the majority of rapists are men and that people are accurately pointing that out.

There's two direct approaches that are being actively discussed here - punish rapists appropriately and teach our children about consent and respecting boundaries.

[-] ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 minutes ago

No, let’s be clear here. You are complaining that the majority of rapists are men and that people are accurately pointing that out.

I dont think so? At least that was not my intention.

I do agree that #notallmen is reactionary.

I also believe that the media pressure is calling all the men rapists.

I was trying to convey that having any kind of movement (because to decrease the rape rate, we will need to have a grassroot movement to push the issue) that alienates part of society, will not be successful. And campaigning on hurting the feelings of men is a bad, pointless idea. Why do it. What for? That's not solving the problem.

I will reply to the second part separately, it will be easier that way

[-] velma@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 minute ago

And campaigning on hurting the feelings of men is a bad, pointless idea.

No one is campaigning on hurting the feelings of men. Rapists can use some hurt feelings and some fucking jail time though.

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