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[-] IndignantIguana@piefed.social 46 points 23 hours ago

So now we're complaining about the enshittification of everything driven by the need to maximize profit in a capitalist system and blaming it on our grandparents? More divisive intergenerational warfare bullshit. If you want to find who to blame for this shit look at the capitalists demanding more and more profit from airlines, manufacturers, literally every part of the economy. It always comes down to class war.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 18 points 22 hours ago

Yep, the 1% laugh their asses off about us fighting between ourselves.

[-] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 7 points 20 hours ago

Exactly, the 1% love it when its race fighting or blaming boomers or anybody else but them. Sad to see as they keep getting away with it.

[-] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca 9 points 21 hours ago

Thank you. I'm always having to point out that boomers haven't been voting significantly more conservative than liberal, and younger generations haven't been voting significantly more liberal than conservative. It's a stereotype, and an incorrect one. In fact, in 2024, GenX voted more conservative than boomers did.

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[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Am I crazy or does the image you post directly contradict what your comment says? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

Like it almost seems like you got the what the red and blue represent swapped entirely in your mind? Like you've somehow read it backwards of something.

[-] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 11 points 22 hours ago

Is this really enshittification?

Prior to the deregulation of the airlines under Carter, the federal government fixed all domestic airfares. Airlines could not compete against each other on price and could only compete on perks. Flying was insanely expensive. NY to LA was $820 in today's dollars and you couldn't just shop around airlines for a better price, while you can get the same flight for less than $240 now.

It's not like flying got shittier while also getting more expensive. Flying is cheaper than it ever has been. The perks went down, sure. But so did the price. By a LOT.

[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Not really disagreeing with you, but I was curious if that $240 includes all the crazy fees they tack on now.

[-] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago

Yeah that is all in, fare, fees, and taxes. Flying is dirt cheap lol.

[-] jtrek@startrek.website 2 points 20 hours ago

I feel like it should be expensive because of the externalized costs , but I don't have any real data for that

[-] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago

They call them “externalized costs” specifically because they can ignore them. Things like pollution don’t cost a firm money in a measurable way unless they’re carbon taxed or something like that.

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 21 hours ago

long distance calls from airplanes were $5 a minute.

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 21 hours ago

This post misses two aspects: flying used to be an expensive luxury, only, and smoking on flights was fucking disgusting.

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

If our grandparents had taken a stand back then and stopped buying shit these corporations would have never gotten so bold. Yeah we should start now (and many are) but we're in a much worse position than they were.

[-] nforminvasion@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Gen Z is just as hooked with propaganda and brainrot from social media, if not more so. It's insane how consumerist the younger generations are, falling for scam after scam, I think it's peptides now.

This generational warfare shit is insane. Many boomers are working at Walmart because they don't have enough to retire and are also getting fucked over. There are plenty of poor, progressive bloomers, just as there are an astounding number of gen z conservatives and red pill bros.

Let's admit that no one is immune to propaganda, and unfortunately most people in all generations are quick to fall for right wing bs.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Many boomers are working at Walmart because they don't have enough to retire and are also getting fucked over

And then they go and vote straight R. Every time. Religiously.

[-] wyrmsbane@sh.itjust.works 2 points 20 hours ago

I think its more nuanced than that, you have to remember that we have the internet, while our grandparents did not. Its harder to notice enshittification without it, imo.

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 3 points 20 hours ago

I don't need to the internet to see the product I'm looking at in the store is of lesser quality or smaller amount than the previous one.

[-] wyrmsbane@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

Yes, but what about the hundreds or thousands of products you dont keep track of? Anecdotally speaking, I see way more posts online than if I were to go to the store myself. Collective mind is a powerful thing.

[-] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today -1 points 22 hours ago

I mean yeah, but those classes do have some demographics associated with them. The average age of the wealthiest Americans is 65-68, the average age of a CEO is 61, and the average age of a member of the Senate is 66 years old.

I don't think that class war precludes intergenerational disputes, it's hard to completely separate class from culture, and culture from the age of the generation.

[-] FishFace@piefed.social 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

How do you know that that's generational rather than, "it takes some time to accumulate wealth, to rise to the position of CEO, or to build a political career enough to become a senator"?

Because the average age of all those positions have gone up significantly for a single generation. Also a lot of the policy and economic theory that makes up the modern economy were pioneered by boomers like Jack Welch while they were first accumulating power. And there's supplemental evidence such as the projected lifespans of future generations being smaller than the generations before in the first time in modern history.

I'm not claiming just being old automatically makes you greedy, just that if you look at culture the baby boomer generation has implemented policy and an economic attitude that is vastly more selfish than any previous generation.

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