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[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I didn't say it was god. These are alleged historical events. You don't get to just say it didn't happen.

Slavery was real, and the Old Testament has explicit rules about it. And Jesus never had a single thing to say about it (besides the thing about fulfilling the old law. Which, again, explicitly includes slavery).

This has NOTHING to do with fundamentalism. You don't get to hand wave this shit away, it's at the very core of the religion you claim to believe.

[-] zloubida@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 days ago

You can't change the subject of the discussion on a whim. The original argument was that Christians worshiped a God that condone slavery and child murder. I showed that, for most Christians, it isn't the case.

(And by the way, these events did not happen. The Exodus is a myth according to the historians, so yes, I'm allowed to say so)

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

And now let me ask you this…

How much of the Bible is false? How much of it could be false for you to not worship the god described in it?

To most christians, the whole point of the Old Testament is to point to, and explain the New Testament, right? When the OT says stuff happened, it doesn’t really matter that it didn’t actually happen. It matters that people believed it happened.

After all, if you don’t believe in the fall of man, or that god picked a chosen people and gave them the first covenant, you can hardly believe the second one, can you?

If you don’t believe god came and spoke through the prophets and promised the messiah, you can hardly believe Jesus is that promised Messiah.

And to be clear the only historical record we have of Jesus is in the Christian Bible. And that Christian Bible says Jesus said he did not come to abolish the law of Moses, and that it is in force until the Earth passes away.

It doesn’t matter if the exodus happened or not, the Torah does in fact exist. (And the Torah is the law he’s talking about.) and so, with Jesus explicitly saying that, he’s also tacitly condoning slavery and all the other awful shit in the Torah.

If you are a Christian, then you worship a monster.

The Christian god is incompatible with a god of the gaps. Afterall, a god of the gaps is not involved in human affairs where the Christian god most certainly is.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Join us in the real world, unfettered by impossible to prove, supernatural hierarchies.

It's quite a weight off the shoulders.

this post was submitted on 22 Oct 2026
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