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Love the political defeat of this fascist.
Don't love the rampant sexism and slut shaming in the comments here.
I don't really think it's slut shaming to make fun of the woman for jerking off some man in a theater with a bunch of people around. I don't give a shit if you want to sleep around, and I also don't give a shit if you want people to watch. That's all fine. The people around need to consent though. It's shaming her for being an asshole, which overlaps her sluttiness.
Those comments are alright. The comments about looking forward to her setting up an OnlyFans are pretty bad.
There were kids at that show, too. It was super fucked up. She should be registered as a sex offender, but alas... In America our justice system is corrupt.
100 percent. It's false equivalency to compare the jokes and insults in this comment section to misogyny and 'slut shaming'.
Not only that, but view her through the context of an entire family of sexual predators. Husband? Predator. Son? Predator? Her? Sexual activities in broad daylight in front of kids--shitty as hell.
We are making fun of horrible people for the horrible shit that they do, not their gender identity. I would categorize it the same as mocking Trump or Gatez for being predators.
Have you seen the comments with people wanting to do sex acts with her or calling her hot despite her being a sexual predator? Wouldnt happen if she was a man or a trans women, so obviously her gender identity plays a huge role here.
Cool. Talk to them. In the meantime I'm not going to hold back on mocking a real actual sexual predator for being a sexual predator.
Yeah keep that up while ignoring the fucked up comments. This will be so helpful in fostering a community where predatory sexual behaviour is treated seriously by everyone!
A bunch of kids. Not just people.
Also, she was vaping.
Sorry but you are minimizing the issue here. In addtion to jokes and outcalls regarding her sexual misconduct they are rating her apperance, make jokes about her starting an only fans (something only done when women leave a career), commenting how they would like to do x sex act with her etc. Like how are you calling out predatory behavious by sexualizing a predator?
And you here are somehow ignoring all that in your comment. Maybe you didnt read all the comments, but I think you should. And its not like those are downvoted at the bottom of the thread.
I definitely did not read all the comments. Yeah, some are really bad. I think a lot of the comments started fine, but yeah, some people took things too far.
On one hand, you’re right - we shouldn’t stoop so low. On the other hand, is another man’s penis at a showing of the Beetlejuice touring production in Denver.
But think about how good the guy was feeling...anyway hiw about the 27 recorded rapes by the president? https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/49344563
Yeah same. Feels like the commentators really just waited for an "socially acceptable" opportunity to let out their misogyny.
Something something "they don't care if a liberal calls them evil, but if they get called a [slur] it might seem like it's coming from someone whose opinion they want to cater to. instead of someone whose opinions they dismiss. And because they are bigoted, being called a [slur] or a slut actually feels like a bad thing to them, instead of the hurtful language of people who don't matter and shouldn't be listened to. Use what hurts them."
I always wondered how to feel about this, when I saw people let loose with bigotry-showing insults against really bad people with conservative and bigoted beliefs. I always leaned towards not liking it on the same grounds as you. I doubt the effectiveness of a random Internet commenter getting bigoted, except towards the big powerful bigots instead of a little guy, in demotivating these people to do bad things. Especially on Lemmy instead of Truth Social or Facebook.
I do wonder how many of the commenters saying this are non-progressives who do think being promiscuous is bad, and thus are not being inconsistent in progressive sex-positive beliefs when they slut-shame—we just assumed they are progressive because we oppose the same people. And how many are progressives who need to do some more work in unpacking bigotry—going mask-off when it's a Bad Person and showing they still believe somewhere that promiscuity is wrong and dirty, they just hold back the mean comments for Good People. (Or maybe they are full progressive and don't believe it's wrong and dirty at all. They are just doing it to hurt the big bad woman who has many political supporters and allies who do believe it is wrong and dirty, and she may herself believe it is wrong and dirty. But onlookers may still read the comments and wonder if that must be their real thoughts about them.) Same for the misogyny. This meme, but with misogyny and slut-shaming instead of bodyshaming
Yes, people do sometimes bring up stuff that is totally inoffensive in insults just because they are trying to be hurtful. But I think the amount of people making bad reference to her brunette-ness (something Americans have deemed irrelevant and inoffensive and not something worth mentioning, as far as I know) in insults is way lower than the amount of people making bad reference to her womanhood or sexual activity, which is probably telling.
I think it also creates ammunition for "look at the progressives, they are just hypocrites, they say sex is good and women are equal. But when someone they don't like does sex and is a woman, they act the same as the rest of us."
It's very gross. The American relationship with sexuality is broken badly
They're pretty chill about killing people tho.
Yeah that gets you pg-13 at most
Yep, here we go again, just like with Nicki, the Lemmy sexism problem is showing itself again. Sexism and misogyny is never okay, it's interesting that many of the sexists here probably consider themselves leftists.
I will donate 14.88 to her next campaign in your honor. I hope she can recover and return to being unabashedly evil and calling for the murder of my family members. Truly, this is the saddest day 💔💔 Our noble girls need to stay home where a strong man can protect them from evil people insulting them on the Internet. Unbelievable misogyny 😭😭😭
You can dislike (and even hate) her without being sexist. I sure do.
Nothing I said was misogynist.
I didn't say you said anything misogynist. You replied to my comment talking about Lemmy's sexism problem.
The problem is you're conflating attacks on a Nazi with attacks on a woman. Those are separate things.
Lemmy has a massive sexism problem but you'll not find me defending that murderous pig. I know you feel very sorry for her and I'm sure that's wonderful for you. I feel very sorry for the people she's hurt (that includes women btw 😱😱)
Look, have fun playing civility charades. I'm sure she'll remember you fondly. That just ain't the way I play
Where did you see that I was feeling sorry for her?
I'm not conflating the two. Users saying that they want her to perform sexual acts for them, saying that she's starting an OnlyFans, and talking about her appearance as many comments in this thread have done hurts all women, not just her.
Those things detract from the terrible shit she's done, and serve only as a distraction from them. I hate her for what she's done and who she is, and I can say that without making sexist comments about her which could affect other women.
Did you read the other comments in this thread before you decided to use the women in your life as an example?
Gross.
I know you're here to derail absolutely any conversation related to actual progress, and you're doing a great job. Let's try this, am I allowed to criticize Schumer? Would that be antisemitic? Would I be allowed to say him and Jeffries should naked mud wrestle for survival in a colosseum full of hungry lions?
Gormless loser shit. Sickening. Shit is cooked
Again, I didn't say you couldn't hate, dislike, or insult anyone. I wasn't even talking about you, so there's nothing to derail. Unless you're wanting to make this about you for some strange reason? I wonder why you're having this reaction to a comment simply pointing out a pattern of sexist behavior, not even directed at you.
It's just where I jumped into the thread.
Everyone's circlejerking about how bad Lemmy is (which it is) but we are completely sidestepping the actual lives destroyed, the children ripped away from their mothers, families torn apart, etc, bc someone said something mean about a white lady. Color me surprised that that's the issue we're supposed to double down on. We'll put on the kid gloves and get started on the mimosa brunch the ungrateful servants put together.
E: I do actually get where you're coming from but I'm super angry at this administration. I'm actually furious at the harm they've done (yes, to my "example women" and also other marginalized people in my life, thanks for writing them off though)
And yet, you made it about yourself, even though it wasn't directed at you.
Sexism isn't just "mean", no need to minimize it. Sexist remarks do exactly what you say: they distract from the actual lives destroyed, the children ripped away from their mothers, families torn apart, etc, just for a "gotcha" moment and high fives.
There are much more productive (and frankly creative) ways to rightfully shit on her while bringing attention to those actual issues. One can take off the kid gloves without sexist behavior, if one actually gives a shit about her fucked up and depraved actions.
Let me reemphasize: this was never about you. It was never directed at you. Yet, you made it about yourself multiple times.
It wasn't about me until you turbo-libs decided to start muddying the waters. The same shit is already happening with the other fuckheads I mentioned. Millions of comments all over the place about their wise leadership. Fucking disgusting.
You will keep slow-playing this political change and whining about incivility until status quo is restored. We know the playbook. You're doing great.
I will continue voting for the rudest motherfuckers alive until the day I die. I will continue viciously attacking bullies. Fuck your civility and your agenda.
You should block me because you're never going to change my mind. Soft as fucking baby shit. Completely oblivious to the actual stakes. Liberals!
I never wanted to change your mind. You seem to be self centered, always making it about yourself.
Crazy, such an emotional reaction over saying that Lemmy has a sexism problem. I find that very interesting.