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Congrats to the new CEO of NZ. What benefits will National bring to NZ over the next 3 years? (self.politics)

submitted 1 year ago by luthis to c/politics

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Let's look on the bright side. The people voted this way (quite significantly) so they must be seeing something positive there. I already know all the downsides so let's discuss the upsides.

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[–] Ilovethebomb 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is this why violent crime was down under Labour?

[–] Rangelus 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is no data that shows violent crime increased because of lower incarceration rates. That's the whole point.

There are a whole host of other factors that cause increases in crime, and even if harsher punishments lowered crime slightly, the most effective measures is addressing the underlying causes of crime in the first place. Mental health, poverty and inequality all have by far the biggest impact in crime rates. Locking up more people won't change that.

[–] Ilovethebomb 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the most effective measures is addressing the underlying causes of crime in the first place.

Which Labour failed miserably at, by the way.

[–] Rangelus 1 points 1 year ago

They certainly should have done more, I absolutely agree, but I do not think it's fair to lay the blame for increased crime squarely at their feet.