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Let's look on the bright side. The people voted this way (quite significantly) so they must be seeing something positive there. I already know all the downsides so let's discuss the upsides.

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[–] Ilovethebomb 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Once again, you conveniently ignore the fact that, while prison may not have a dramatic effect on recidivism rates, something that evidence from other commenters contradicts, there is the little fact that offenders can't commit these acts from behind bars.

At worst, it puts the damage they do to society on pause for a while.

[–] Rangelus 1 points 1 year ago

The evidence does not contradict it, but regardless.

I agreed with this point elsewhere. Locking a violent criminal up removes them from society, absolutely.

What I'm arguing against is the idea that perceived harsher punishments will affect the crime rate. I think, on balance of available data, that there is no clear evidence that it will. It will cost taxpayers more money for no tangible benefit.