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Congrats to the new CEO of NZ. What benefits will National bring to NZ over the next 3 years? (self.politics)

submitted 1 year ago by luthis to c/politics

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Let's look on the bright side. The people voted this way (quite significantly) so they must be seeing something positive there. I already know all the downsides so let's discuss the upsides.

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[–] Rangelus 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Homie, watching you get shut down by actual evidence has been brilliant to watch.

If I am presented with compelling evidence, I will change my view. So far, nothing he has supplied has in any meaningful way supported the assertion that longer prison sentences lowers crime rates.

Fact is, violent crime is up under Labour, whatever the underlying cause may be, and the current approach isn't working.

You are absolutely right, violent crime has risen recently. But instead of just blaming the incumbent, perhaps we should be lookings the broader picture as to why this has happened? Do we know a 'tough on crime' policy would not have seen the same rise in crime? No, we do not. However, many of the things Labour has been implementing have proven effects in lowering crime and recidivism.

[–] Ilovethebomb 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is no amount of evidence that you will not dismiss offhand as "inconclusive", while using equally vague evidence to support your own argument.

[–] Rangelus 0 points 1 year ago

That simply isn't true, but you can think whatever you want. Just because I don't agree with your conclusions does not mean I am dogmatic about it.

I remain unconvinced. Many experts remain unconvinced. The justice department remains unconvinced. Many other governments remain unconvinced. That is enough for me.