I think I've responded to a lot of your points in the reply I posted to the other commenter, and I don't want to just spam the thread with my opinion over and over... But I did want to say thanks for creythe thread in the first place, and thanks for being chill about the topic. It's pretty hard to have a reasonable discussion about this kind of thing in a lot of places without lots of unnecessary name calling, so I appreciate your approach here :)