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Just because you chose to reject the evidence I presented; doesn’t mean I didn’t present it. And I'm sorry if you see being called ignorant about something as an attack. It's not intended to be. I will gladly admit I'm ignorant of many things. If a person thinks they're ignorant of nothing they have no space to learn or grow. The fact is, someone who doesn't know about something is ignorant about it. And that was the case with you about China. I certainly didn't call you stupid (please stop with the straw men - you've done it several times on Lemmy and it's a bad faith way of arguing which only devalues your opinion).
If you actually listened through all four episodes of that podcast and all you heard was accusations and weasel words, I don't know what to tell you. In my experience talking to you on here, you seem reasonably intelligent, but it really feels as though you choose not to learn about and/or understand things that challenge your beliefs. That means there’s no point discussing things with you that you’re not already knowledgeable about. It’s why I initially stopped engaging with you on here. I thought I’d give you another try, but I won’t be doing that again soon. Have fun out there. Mānawatia a Matariki!
One of the greatest failings of our education system is the inability to teach the difference between a claim and an evidence. You have provided no evidence. You haven't even provided a clear and distinct claim. Your claim is basically "china is doing something" without even saying what exactly they are doing let alone providing evidence of their actions.
Just because I don't accept your vague innuendos as facts doesn't mean I am ignorant.
No I am not going to listen to hours and hours of some biased people repeating the same accusations over and over again.
Make a specific accusation such as "the chinese government is ordering the chinese language press to say positive things about china". Then present some evidence. And then tell me why I should be alarmed at such an event and not be alarmed about any other country doing the same thing including my own.
Also go ahead and make a specific claim about what chinese citizens are spying for china and present your evidence for it. That's a pretty fucking serious accusation and the government should start criminal investigations if it's true.
I am not going to be convinced by weasel worded innuendos. If you want me to support your efforts to undermine our relationship with China you are going to have to bring much more to the table.