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Aotearoa Daily Kōrero 18/12/2023 (self.newzealand)
submitted 11 months ago by Dave to c/newzealand
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Welcome to today’s daily kōrero!

Anyone can make the thread, first in first served. If you are here on a day and there’s no daily thread, feel free to create it!

Anyway, it’s just a chance to talk about your day, what you have planned, what you have done, etc.

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[–] Dave 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm thinking I might go without PoE and just meet my current need, then add a PoE switch to support cameras if or when I get them.

I've been reading a bit on managed vs unmanaged switches, and it sounds like unmanaged switches are like managed switches but you just plug in your stuff and it works. There are no settings, but also there is no need to set it up. If I'm just out to allow more devices to join the network via ethernet, would something like this be suitable? I'm specifically doing it to improve the speed vs wifi so I don't want to make it worse 😆

[–] Panq 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm thinking I might go without PoE and just meet my current need, then add a PoE switch to support cameras if or when I get them.

That's more or less what I did when the dirt cheap AliExpress cameras died - just got a PoE switch from PB Tech and a small pile of Reolink cameras (RLC810A). Definitely the best value-for-money, and works well with Home Assistant. Way better than those stupid splitters or having a pile of individual POE injectors.

[–] TagMeInSkipIGotThis 2 points 11 months ago

I started off with a couple of UniFi cameras; and they're very good, but only the even more expensive ones supported the object detection stuff. So when I wanted to add some more given i'd switched to using Frigate anyway to detect humans vs spiders I ended up buying some of these - they're definitely not as good as the UniFi, and who knows how buggy/weak the software is, but they work well enough and good value.

https://www.amazon.com/Amcrest-5-Megapixel-NightVision-Weatherproof-IP5M-T1179EW-28MM/dp/B083G9KT4C/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1VULWG1O37SC3&keywords=amcrest+poe+camera&qid=1702921890&sprefix=amcrest%2Caps%2C362&sr=8-4

[–] Dave 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm new to home assistant and slowly adding things. Cameras are on my list but probably a while away!

[–] TagMeInSkipIGotThis 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm trying to remove as much stuff from Home Assistant as possible so I can turn it off. I have no interest in any home automation so its really just collating data that could be going direct to influx/prometheus and providing some of the most unreliable notifications for camera events ever.

Its supposed to only send me a push if my phone is not at home; but it just sends them all the time, even when the phone is in the at home state. I kinda hate it, purely for that.

[–] Dave 1 points 11 months ago

Haha oh I guess I will see how well it works when I get around to it then!

[–] TagMeInSkipIGotThis 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

man, why is that one more expensive than the others, its only a 100M switch - that'd be slower than your wifi!

This one is only 8 ports, but at least they're Gigabit: https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/SWHTPL1004/TP-Link-TL-SG108-8-Port-Gigabit-Unmanaged-Switch-S

And this would be the netgear equivalent: https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/SWHNGR30830/NETGEAR-GS308-SOHO-8-port-Gigabit-Unmanaged-Switch

[–] Dave 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Ah didn't catch it's only 100M. I saw a review on the one you linked earlier that said they just plugged it in and it works, but it also has config options. However, everyone is powering it via PoE. Can I assume that means it needs another switch first to provide that power? I don't think the ISP router or the mesh APs provide PoE.

I'm thinking back in the direction of managed switch because I'm sure I'll be able to work it out, and it provides a learning opportunity. But I think that $70ish price point is what I'm aiming for rather than hundreds of dollars.

Edit: Maybe this one? It's netgear, seems it can configure itself but may also allow you to configure it? https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/SWHNGR0025/NETGEAR-8-Port-Gigabit-Ethernet-Plus-Switch-GS108E

[–] TagMeInSkipIGotThis 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I think its a good option, especially if you can just plug it in & have it work too. Has 2 options for power:

Power Method

USB Type C, 5V 802.3af/at PoE (44 - 57VDC, 0.05 - 0.04A)

[–] Dave 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ok I've ordered it, thanks for the help!

[–] TagMeInSkipIGotThis 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm struggling hard with FOMO and might have to order one for myself.

[–] Dave 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Haha I thought for sure you'd have much nicer stuff than this!

[–] TagMeInSkipIGotThis 2 points 11 months ago

I do, but it'd be nice to have a small box behind the TV to replace the ToughSwitch that's there now; which I can then deploy elsewhere for some other projects I have on the go.