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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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good news, everyone! eliezer is writing fiction again (www.lesswrong.com)
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"glowfic" apparently. written in a roleplay forum format.

This is not a story for kids, even less so than HPMOR. There is romance, there is sex, there are deliberately bad kink practices whose explicit purpose is to get people to actually hurt somebody else so that they'll end up damned to Hell, and also there's math.

start here. or don't, of course.

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[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 21 points 8 months ago (3 children)

From a downvoted comment:

Because players aren't sure where a story is going and can't edit previous sections, the stories tend to be plagued by pacing problems- scenes that could be a paragraph are dragged out over pages, important plot beats are glossed over, and so on. It's also very rare that players are able to pull off the kind of coordination necessary for satisfying narrative buildup and payoff, and the focus on player character interaction tends to leave a lot of necessary story scaffolding like scene setting and NPC interaction badly lacking.

If your goal in writing this was in part to promote or socially explore these utopian ideas rather than just to enjoy a forum game, it may be worth considering ways to mitigate these issues- to modify the Glowfic formula to better accommodate an audience.

Yud's response:

We are both experienced authors not in need of this advice at this level.

<no words, no words, they should have sent a poet.gif>

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"Editing? Where we're going, we don't need editing!" - Absolutely not Eliezer. Too succinct.

In my pursuit of clarity and precision, the art of composition itself becomes a meticulous process of refining ideas. Each word is a deliberate stroke, contributing to the coherence of thought, rendering traditional editing superfluous. The absence of formal editing is a deliberate choice, reflecting the belief that the initial act of creation captures the most authentic expression of my intellectual journey.

Now that is what yud^1^ might say.

1: By Yud I mean a 99.9% accurate simulation of Yud using ChatGPT, which, according to rationalist doctrine, is the same thing.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 9 points 8 months ago

Ooh, there’s an idea. Train a LLM on his logorrhoea, output to a variety of places (as often with his face on a profile as not), and watch the little man twist himself up as he tries to position being okay with it while also really hating that it’s happening

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 7 points 8 months ago

Scenes that could be a paragraph are dragged out over pages

Amazing that this can be applied directly to HPMoR, which doesn't have the defense of "glowfic".

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 5 points 8 months ago

god he's so stupid, sometimes it staggers me