Read the article I posted. There are significant challenges beginning and more expected in several countries, Japan, Korea, and more, due to a rapidly aging population.

But if you wish to be contrarian and insist everything will be fine, whatever. I don't really care.

[–] BalpeenHammer -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I guess you are right. They should start forcefully impregnating women or something.

[–] Rangelus 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The fuck are you on about?

[–] BalpeenHammer 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well we need to prevent an aging population right? There are only two ways to do that. Either we start killing old people or we forcefully impregnate women and pop out babies faster than the death and emigration rate.

An aging population is a huge problem right? We can't let it happen right? Look at the disaster that's happening in Japan right now right? They are having a huge problem with an aging population right?

Right?

[–] Rangelus 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I have no idea what the fuck you are on about, but you are arguing with yourself.

[–] BalpeenHammer 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Is an aging population a major problem or not? If so should we do something about it or not?

You raised the alarm and in fact said we are going to suffer the same fate that has befallen Japan if we don't do something. Presumably Japan is suffering due to an aging population right?

[–] Rangelus 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Is an aging population a major problem or not?

Yes, it is a fact that it is already causing problems, and likely will become major. Read the article.

You raised the alarm and in fact said we are going to suffer the same fate that has befallen Japan if we don’t do something. Presumably Japan is suffering due to an aging population right?

You added "if we don't do something". I just said what is happening in Japan is a worry. Never said we would be like that, never said there is anything to be done about it.

[–] BalpeenHammer 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yes, it is a fact that it is already causing problems, and likely will become major. Read the article.

Ok great.

Now obviously we can't just let a major problem go unaddressed right? We have to do something about it right? We can't let our country turn into Japan right?

[–] Rangelus 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I made no such judgement or comment.

[–] BalpeenHammer 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's a lie. You made a judgment that said that an aging population is a massive problem and that it's hurting Japan and you used as an example of how much it's going to hurt us if we allow our population to age.

So clearly you think this is some dire and severe problem because you raised the alarm about it.

So now you want to say we should do nothing in the face of this massive problem? What's wrong with you?

[–] Rangelus 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Look dipshit, you can say whatever the hell you want but it won't change the fact that you are arguing against shit you made up.

Does a rapidly ageing population cause changes and problems? Yes, objectively. Does that mean we should force women to become pregnant to stop it? No, what's wrong with you?

[–] BalpeenHammer 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Does a rapidly ageing population cause changes and problems? Yes, objectively. Does that mean we should force women to become pregnant to stop it? No, what’s wrong with you?

How else will you solve this urgent and important problem?

[–] Rangelus 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't know. I never said anything about a solution, did I?

[–] BalpeenHammer 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Why not? Why are you bleating about a problem without even having an opinion on a solution.

[–] Rangelus 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Is someone incapable of recognizing a problem without knowing how to solve it?

[–] BalpeenHammer 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If they can't even form an opinion on a solution and if the problem only has one or two solutions then yes that person is incapable of recognising the problem.

[–] Rangelus 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Bollocks, you sound just like ilovethebomb. One is able to recognize a problem without knowing a solution for the problem. To say otherwise is disingenuous at best.

[–] BalpeenHammer 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The problem is simple and there are only two possible solutions maybe three if you push it. This isn't some complex thing.

[–] Rangelus 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If it's so simple why don't you post your solution then?

[–] BalpeenHammer 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There are only three solutions.

Implant babies in women.
Allow more immigrants.
Kill older people or at least urge them to kill themselves to solve this crisis that's going to destroy their country.

Then again I completely and utterly reject your insane alarmism over this issue. I don't think this is some massive problem that's going to destroy the country or GASP!!! make us like Japan. Imagine New Zealand being like Japan. Can anybody imagine something so horrible!!!

Honestly your alarmism is unhinged.

[–] Rangelus 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Man you really are a muppet aren't you?

Implant babies in women. Allow more immigrants. Kill older people or at least urge them to kill themselves to solve this crisis that’s going to destroy their country.

Or encourage families to have kids through incentives? Or increase wages and lower the cost of child care so couples can afford it now? Or combat social norms that women are supposed to stay at home? There are lots of ideas that aren't "force women to have babies" and "kill all old people". I can only assume you are being intentionally obtuse, because I can't imagine you are so stupid to think that these are the only options.

Then again I completely and utterly reject your insane alarmism over this issue. I don’t think this is some massive problem that’s going to destroy the country or GASP!!! make us like Japan. Imagine New Zealand being like Japan. Can anybody imagine something so horrible!!!

You do realize it's not just me, but lots of countries and scientists around the world pointing to the problems that can arise from a rapidly aging population, right? Take Korea, for example. They have the worlds lowest birth rate, and this year it dropped even lower to 0.78 children per woman. By 2067, it is predicted that 46% of the population will be over 65. Can you really not grasp how this will have huge ramifications for a society? When the working population is drastically lower than it is now? How will this affect the economy? Who will look after all the retired people when they need care? And so on and so on. It's not a hard concept, despite you doing your damnedest to channel a moron.

Honestly your alarmism is unhinged.

What alarmism? I simply pointed out it will be a problem if it continues. I didn't shout "WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT NOW!" or anything, did I? I pointed out it is already starting to be a problem in other countries, which is true, and you started going on about forcing pregnancies and other stupid shit.

By the way, most countries where the birth rate is significantly below replacement level have started trying to combat this, usually with financial incentives for having children. Some, such as Korea, have spent billions on this. If it isn't a problem, why waste all that money?

[–] BalpeenHammer 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Or encourage families to have kids through incentives?

Wait. I thought you said you were not capable of coming up with solutions.

You do realize it’s not just me, but lots of countries and scientists around the world pointing to the problems that can arise from a rapidly aging population, right?

Yea lots of scientists around the world are also claiming the covid vaccine is harmful.

hey have the worlds lowest birth rate, and this year it dropped even lower to 0.78 children per woman. By 2067, it is predicted that 46% of the population will be over 65. Can you really not grasp how this will have huge ramifications for a society?

Yea it will not have any major ramifications.

When the working population is drastically lower than it is now? How will this affect the economy?

With increased automation and AI it will not effect the economy at all. If anything it will help because we are going to need less people to do the same work anyway.

If it isn’t a problem, why waste all that money?

Religion mostly. Also cultural norms to a lesser extent.

[–] Rangelus 1 points 8 months ago

Yeah, you have no idea what you're talking about, and I'm quite bored of discussing this with you.

Congratulations.