"Gun ownership is a normal way of life. Now, everyone thinks that it's used just as a weapon, rather than as a sporting tool or a way to put food on the table,"

Yes, I do remember seeing the Olympic sport shooters with AR-15s now you mention it. Not a gun guy, but it does seem like a super practical weapon to be hunting with as well.

[–] BalpeenHammer 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There is nothing in the current law that prohibits anybody from shooting animals to put food on the table. If you are such a terrible shot that you need to unload an AR15 magazine into a goat or a boar you should not be hunting in the first place.

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca -3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

Wild hogs come in droves and they are extremely skittish. An AR is probably one of the best firearms for hogs if you need to control a population of them, actually. Accuracy is moot at around ~100yds and it's about putting down as many hogs as you can in the few seconds you have.

When used properly, AR is an extremely versatile weapon. It's lightweight, easy to maintain and can be configured for quite a few hunting situations.

[–] kiwiguy@mastodon.social 3 points 9 months ago

@remotelove @BalpeenHammer look out folks NZ just found it's own hog guy.

[–] Xcf456 3 points 8 months ago

There is already an exemption from the ban for pest control

[–] BalpeenHammer 3 points 8 months ago

Wild hogs come in droves and they are extremely skittish. An AR is probably one of the best firearms for hogs if you need to control a population of them, actually. Accuracy is moot at around ~100yds and it’s about putting down as many hogs as you can in the few seconds you have.

LOL. So you just spray into the herd then eh?

When used properly, AR is an extremely versatile weapon. It’s lightweight, easy to maintain and can be configured for quite a few hunting situations.

So are fully automatic weapons, so are hand grenades. In fact you could just throw a grenade into that herd of hogs right?

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not in New Zealand you numpty

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca -3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Geographic location has little to do with my points, actually.

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah? Show me "drioves of hogs" in New Zealand, Nimrod

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca -2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

If you are such a terrible shot that you need to unload an AR15 magazine into a goat or a boar you should not be hunting in the first place.

That is the bit that I was mainly focused on. My points are still valid, regardless of why you think name-calling is appropriate.

[–] Rangelus 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think his point is that we don't have any wild game here that requires a semi-auto AR15 to hunt, because this article is about NZ gun laws here.

The only use case for semi-auto rifles here in NZ when it comes to hunting is for pest control, and in this case they are allowed (if you have the correct documentation and license).

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

The laws are meant to guard against cases like the Chch massacre. ACT are trying to make the case that AR15s are fine for members of gun clubs apparantly unconcerned by the fact that the Chch shooter was a legally licensed member of a gun club

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

That wasn't name calling. Nimrod was a mighty hunter. My comments were related to your comments about the reasonableness of weapons to hunt things that don't exist in NZ in the context of a discussion about the reasonableness of weapons in NZ.

[–] liv 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Not realizing you weren't from NZ at first, I sort of thought you were someone who has hallucinations talking about droves of pigs.

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Lol! I actually go to Texas and other places that have nasty wild hog issues to assist in managing their populations for farmers. Hogs are remarkable creatures, actually. Unfortunately, they are efficiently destructive, extremely smart and they usually come in large numbers. Honestly speaking, it pushes the limits of what an AR is capable of.

However, when you look at the weapon as a tool and not as an analog for comparing dick size, it's versatility is amazing. Having a semiautomatic with a collapsible stock with a 10 inch barrel actually makes sense when you have to hike through the hell of hog territory.

What I am saying is that practicality is a huge factor. Bolt action rifles can be impractical and even a hazard in some situations. Firearms are tools, and need to be treated as such.

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Olympic shooting is about accuracy, not a round's effect on the target, that is why they now use .22 caliber or air powered. .22s and air guns are less regulated worldwide, so more countries can compete. They used to use larger caliber firearms but have gone the way they have because it makes things more competitive.

"Sport" shooting is recreational shooting. So going out to a range and putting holes in paper for fun is sport shooting. Sport shooting is also competitive non-olympic shooting competitions like 2 or 3 gun, where you are competing for time to hit a number of targets while moving using a pistol, rifle, and shotgun.

As far as hunting with a semi-auto goes, it isn't really all that advantageous unless you are doing pest control for large numbers of animals, like a team of hogs. You can't usually shoot more than one game animal in a short period of time, so faster successive shots isnt needed.