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New Windows AI feature records everything you’ve done on your PC (arstechnica.com)

submitted 5 months ago by sc_griffith@awful.systems to c/techtakes@awful.systems

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somehow I managed to miss this until now

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[–] gerikson@awful.systems 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

This might be the case, but at least the first I heard about the Copilot+ launch was that it was finally a "Macbook Air" killer - which I suspect would already be a strong selling point (at least if MSFT solved the backwards compatibility issue). Yet right after they announced the Recall stuff, and at least from what I have read it was received very negatively. So now they have the story that if you want the latest fast, efficient windows machine, you need to allow it to spy on your screen. Not the best marketing imo.

[–] cstross@wandering.shop 9 points 5 months ago

@gerikson Heh. Am waiting for the next Apple ads—"It's a bit like Microsoft's ARM laptops, only better and there's no spyware."

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I've seen that take somewhere too, and personally I don't think it holds water. I'm a mac/*nix user and the hardware is only part of that. not fucking using windows is a hell of a massive part of my choices. and there's basically nothing that they can do there to make a real dent

there's definitely a lot of people out there that have web-heavy/-only workflows and on paper that group could move over, but in reality fucking windows is still fucking windows and the related problems that have plagued it[0] for years won't just magically evaporate because of switching to a new arch

nevermind all the other crazy shit they've been pushing lately

[0] - think stuff like cruft buildup, spy-/track-/push-ware, etc etc

[–] gnomicutterance@awful.systems 9 points 5 months ago

Yeah, I’m a windows user and agree with you completely. People choose operating system, not battery life.

I would love if they solved the problems that made windows on ARM not ready for prime time, even though I’m enough of a power user it will probably never be for me. But this is not the way.

Part of this is still trying to make a combination full featured windows laptop that’s also a Chromebook equivalent that’s also a tablet that’s also a dessert topping, when those should be separate devices with different ecosystems. UWP Metro apps were tablet-first when they first launched, sucking on desktop. The tablet pushing in Windows 10 initially broke accessibility. 2-in-1 Surfaces are way too heavy to be good tablets, because they’re still full featured PCs.

I do not want to mix this duck sauce with that chocolate bunny.

[–] gnomicutterance@awful.systems 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but they’ve been marketing Windows on ARM as a Macbook Air killer for a few years now. This is more of a rebrand of that effort.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 7 points 5 months ago

OK, I didn't know that (mslty because I don't follow PC news, it's aggressively boring). FWIW the only tech podcast I do follow (all mac people) did single out this release as "this time MSFT proabbly got it right" - but they're mostly interested in Apple getting some competition.