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I think what you meant to write is "online games with anticheat are the worst thing".
Because "online anticheat" is becoming a thing wherein the anticheat system is run on a remote server and not your local system. Not only does it not need to install malware on your local system, but it does a better job at catching cheaters.
Yup, and it's a fantastic option. AFAIK, that's what Valve uses for CS:GO, and while it's not perfect, it isn't intrusive and largely does its job.
That's not even what I was referring to. I'm talking about full anticheat server-side. Waldo Vision
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Interesting. Most of what I've seen operates on inputs, like whether aiming is too accurate or the player moves unrealistically fast.
But I'm in favor of anything server-side, we really shouldn't be trying to make the clien more trustworthy.
I refuse to buy a game that has DRM or anti cheat.
I would too, but it play it with firends and they couldn't care less about free software and linux. They just want to play no questions asked
Sometimes you have to choose between what is convenient and what is right, and sometimes that means giving things up. But not everyone is willing or able to do that. It's fine, do what you feel you need to.
This. Use whatever is best for you and sometimes that just isn’t Linux. We don’t win people over by trying to force anything :)
Hopefully this issue will continue to get better over time, which it is slowly.
Same here. I’ve only a Linux machine for over a decade but I had to go out and buy Windows just so I could play on FaceIT. I’m praying that cs2 supports Linux and the MM experience is good enough to make FaceIT obsolete.
Cs2 is 100% getting Linux support. Wouldnt make sense for a company that heavily invested in Linux to not support it
Buy windows? 🤯🤯🤯
I hope they didn't actually buy it from M$ at least, but a third party reseller for five bucks
Personally never bought it. (Windows activation script ftw)
Why should he?
NVMe drives have become to inexpensive recently I just bit the bullet and dual-boot windows from it's own drive. Takes less than ten seconds to switch.
Just make sure you physically disconnect all other storage devices while installing windows. The windows boot loader seems to make itself comfy on any drive it can find.
Honestly, I'd rather the anti cheat be there. Playing a game with a bunch of cheaters ruins the game. Not wanting to play it is equal to not buying it in the first place in terms of enjoyment. So I'd rather have strong anti cheat on Linux. Anti cheat doesn't ruin the game, you are still able to enjoy it.
But this is also why I think supporting native Linux builds is better. If they are supporting native Linux builds they are supporting Linux as a platform. With proton the developers don't think about Linux. Proton overall has kind of hurt Linux support because it means no one thinks about the platform anymore.
Anti-cheat as a concept is fine but invasive client-side anti cheat just aren't it.
Don't be so spineless.
Plenty of games work without anti cheat on Linux and I only play them.
You just buckled under the tiniest amount of pressure, but you would have to pry Linux out of my cold dead hands.
Not sure why there are so many downvotes. Are there really that many people in here of all places who think gaming is just triple-A games from companies that don't respect their players and nothing else?
Edit: wording
It's actually pretty hard to fuck up your game that much that it doesn't work on Linux.
Many anti cheat even work under proton.
So yeah, just don't fucking buy shit games.
Those anti cheat games usually need to opt in to supporting Proton/WINE. For Easy Anti Cheat (perhaps the biggest one out there), devs just need to tick a build option to support it, but then they feel obligated to do QA for it, so the option stays off until the higher ups decide to formally support that configuration.
So it's not that it's hard to mess it up, it's just hard to convince higher ups to allow their game to work on Linux.
If a AAA MP game doesn't work on Linux, it's probably intentional.
I don't like it because that's the kind of elitist attitude that turns away new people from checking out Linux gaming. Imagine that as a response to "Hey I play these games and am interested in Linux". You're going to tell them: "switch to Linux and give up those games and if you don't you're not committed enough"?
It's gatekeeping "console-wars" fanboy mentality. Like a ~~Linux~~ Playstation fan attacking someone for playing an ~~Windows~~ Xbox Exclusive. As if that's supposed to be their whole identity, and not just a way to play video games.
There's nothing wrong with having multiple consoles; there's nothing wrong with dual-booting.
In my experience, most Windows-exclusive games work just fine under Wine. It's not that big a deal.
This thread isn't even about Windows games per se, but about a few games whose anti-cheats are screwing over Linux users.
I just refuse to buy any games with client side anti cheat. It's just too much of a security and privacy risk to have those rootkits on my computers.
Out of curiosity, which games are those?
Fall guys fortnite and apex (judge me if you want but my broke firend don't wanna try anything else)
I can confirm that both apex and fallguys are working just fine on Linux. Fortnite on the other hand does not.
I'm not judging, as I said I was curious. I get it though, Apex just had a Linux ban wave, Fortnite well, it's owned by Epic and Fall Guys to my knowledge requires editing AC files so Windows in your case is more convenient
Dam. Sorry to hear.
There’s unfortunately not much to do.
Linux is inherently less “secure” to developers. They have to sacrifice anti-chest efficiency to enable them on Linux, which is a tradeoff most aren’t willing to make.
Most every game I play requires me to stay on windows. I don’t really get any enjoyment out of single player games anymore. So windows stays as the primary OS and that’s likely never going to change.
But it's not. Easy anti-cheat, for example, works on Linux. The problem isn't with Linux, it's that developers don't target Linux, so their anti-cheat systems don't work on Linux.
And that's fine with me, though it would help Linux adoption if those games worked on Linux. But it's not an inherent limitation of Linux, it's just something devs need to proactively support.
Correction, EAC barely works on linux. Apex is just safer because Respawn themselves are putting in some effort.
So don't get into those games in the first place. There are so many games available. You will never exhaust them all.
I primarily play competitive fps games. They’re more or less the only genre of gaming that’s any kind of fun anymore imo.
I don’t enjoy single player games. I own literally thousands of dollars of indie/AA single player games that I don’t enjoy, so I’ve stopped buying new ones. I’m simply not interested in non-competitive games. They’re not fun and I’d rather not play them.
Personally I don't really enjoy multiplayer games much because they are all so stale nowadays.
I guess I grew up with dedicated servers, map editors, and mods coming out all the time but most of the modern ones are so fixed on DLC and battlepasses.
You're essentially the opposite from me. I keep trying MP and it just doesn't click for me. I played Rocket League a bit with friends, but after 20-30 hours, I got tired of it and didn't pick it up again. I used to love FPS MP, but it just feels so repetitive these days. I've tried MP strategy games, and it's just the same repetitive thing. It becomes more about flawless performance of the same task and less about experiencing something new.
I love SP games with good story, unique gameplay, or immersive atmosphere. There's just so much variety in the AA and indie space that there's always something new to experience.
I haven't played any of the recent big MP games, and I'm much more satisfied as a gamer than I was when i played them.
I guess I don't see the appeal anymore. But then the are people who are the exact opposite and see the appeal of SP gaming. And I think that's interesting.