You know whose opinion I don’t need on housing? People who make money in the housing market.
this post was submitted on 05 Jul 2024
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He says ugly buildings, implying what they look like aesthetically from the outside, but he actually seems to be talking about designing apartments to actually be functional to live in, which I agree with. It gets even more important the smaller the size I reckon
There's a huge difference between ones done by private developers and kainga ora/kiwibuild imo. The former are more often investment units to extract tenant wages first and foremost. Storage, building amenities, light etc all non considerations. People I know in kiwibuild apartments love them.
The rest of what he says is the same old garbage and speaks to the risks of the govts approach. If nimby councils reject density around transport hubs as theyll be able to do under this, theyll push lower density sprawl further out and it'll be worse and more expensive for everyone.
Yeah, I have a friend who has a Kiwibuild apartment, they have a ridiculous amount of cupboards, a washer/dryer, storage in the basement for his mountain bike.
That's kinda on the buyer though, even if you're buying off plans, all this is on the plans you sign off on.
To an extent, choice isn't a huge feature of our housing market. That will certainly change eventually if theres a big increase in supply, but therell be a lot of poorly thought out stuff in the housing stock to get to that point
I'm going to be honest here, the constant doom and gloom from you and others in this thread is kinda sad. Every time the "other team" does something even remotely good, you immediately assume it won't work, and set out to explain why.
Any step towards more intensification will mean getting closer to ending the housing crisis, let's celebrate that shall we?
I don't mind since ugly buildings . It's not like Auckland looks nice anyway.
Developers just keep churning out the same bland cookie cutter designs for the last twenty years so excuse me if I don't value their opinions
And that's kinda what we need right now, just mass produced, low cost housing that people can actually afford.
Except it is neither low cost nor affordable.
How do you know that?
Because I've been alive and a renter in the last twenty years?
And that means these hypothetical new builds will be unaffordable?
You're going to have to explain your reasoning here, we've had a shortage of housing for a very long time, how will ending that shortage not help?
Who's talking about new builds?
The news article you're commenting on?
Yet my comment wasn't. Clearly.
You didn't read the article, did you?
Course I did. I also read the part about developers being against it. Which was the topic of my comment. Which you didn't read.
So, you read the article, and proceeded to start an argument about an entirely different topic?
No. That's exactly what you did here though.
50m2 as being considered the minimum for banks to lend to you,
Isn't there a 60m2 unpermitted dwellings law coming down the pipeline?
I think there could be another leaky buildings style crisis on the horizon.
I think that's the granny flat rule, but that's in addition to a main building, as opposed to an apartment, which is a self sufficient unit.
I don't see why floor size would have any effect on the weather tightness of the building though.
Thanks for clarification, that makes more sense. Standalones remain 30m2. Hmm I can think of some housing stock in my town that magically will become compliant with that change.
don’t see why floor size would have any effect on the weather tightness
No neither do I; that was a non sequitur from me, just general musing/thinking aloud about the regulatory climate. Sorry!
I would think we've learned our lesson from that, but who knows.
Hope you're right.
The only thing I'm concerned about is the continued creep of housing developments into productive farmland.
If developers want to increase density of housing in current areas, that's a good thing! I don't particularly care about how stylish a development is at this point in time. Besides, current cookie cutter housing is all ugly anyway.