Our anti-AI milita will be called "The Artists' Rifles"
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Saw an unexpected Animatrix reference on Twitter today - and from an unrepentant promptfondler, no less:
This ended up starting a lengthy argument with an "AI researcher" (read: promptfondler with delusions of intelligence), which you can read if you wanna torture yourself.
yes. that's all true, but academics and artists and leftists are actually calling for Buttlerian jihad all the time. when push comes to shove they will ally with fascists on AI
This guy severely underestimates my capacity for being against multiple things at the same time.
The type of guy who was totally convinced by the 'but what if the AI needs to generate slurs to stop the nukes?' argument.
Guy invented a new way to misinterpret the matrix, nice. Was getting tired of all the pilltalk
I vaguely remember mentioning this AI doomer before, but I ended up seeing him openly stating his support for SB 1047 whilst quote-tweeting a guy talking about OpenAI's current shitshow:
I've had this take multiple times before, but now I feel pretty convinced the "AI doom/AI safety" criti-hype is going to end up being a major double-edged sword for the AI industry.
The industry's publicly and repeatedly hyped up this idea that they're developing something so advanced/so intelligent that it could potentially cause humanity to get turned into paperclips if something went wrong. Whilst they've succeeded in getting a lot of people to buy this idea, they're now facing the problem that people don't trust them to use their supposedly world-ending tech responsibly.
it’s easy to imagine a world where the people working on AI that are also convinced about AI safety decide to shun OpenAI for actions like this. It’s also easy to imagine that OpenAI finds some way to convince their feeble, gullible minds to stay and in fact work twice as hard. My pitch: just tell them GPT X is showing signs of basilisk nature and it’s too late to leave the data mines
Isn't the primary reason why people are so powerful persuaded by this technology, because they're constantly sworn to that if they don't use its answers they will have their life's work and dignity removed from them? Like how many are in the control group where they persuade people with a gun to their head?
People are "blatantly stealing my work," AI artist complains
When Jason Allen submitted his bombastically named Théâtre D’opéra Spatial to the US Copyright Office, they weren't so easily fooled as the judges back in Colorado. It was decided that the image could not be copyrighted in its entirety because, as an AI-generated image, it lacked the essential element of “human authorship". The office decided that, at best, Allen could copyright specific parts of the piece that he worked on himself in Photoshop.
“The Copyright Office’s refusal to register Theatre D’Opera Spatial has put me in a terrible position, with no recourse against others who are blatantly and repeatedly stealing my work without compensation or credit.” If something about that argument rings strangely familiar, it might be due to the various groups of artists suing the developers of AI image generators for using their work as training data without permission.
Appropriately for this sort of meaningless bilge, the name is also bullshit. The way to say "space opera" in French is "space opera".
"Space opera's the same, but they call it le space opera."
It's been a long time since I lived in France, so my sense of what is idiomatic has no doubt grown rusty, but "Théâtre D'opéra" doesn't sound right. The word "Théâtre" doesn't belong in a reference to the place where operas are performed. It's "L'opéra Garnier" and "L'opéra Bastille" in Paris and "L'opéra Nouvel" in Lyon, for example. I'd read "théâtre d'opéra" as more like "operatic theatre" in the sense of a genre (contrasted with, e.g., spoken-word theatre). I could be completely wrong here, but the title feels like a naive machine translation.
That's absolutely right.
and now when somebody will generate exactly the same thing, it won't be new stuff either el reg: Hipster whines at tech mag for using his pic to imply hipsters look the same, discovers pic was of an entirely different hipster
From an article about a boutique brand that sells books to rich people:
Assouline has made its name publishing tomes that sell for $1,000 or more.
Oh, so they publish textbooks.
"They represent stealth wealth, intended to tell you what your hosts are about and to provide visual evidence: that the owners are people of wealth, education and taste."
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one of OpenAI’s cofounders wrote some thoroughly unhinged shit about the company’s recent departures
Thank you, guys, for being my team and my co-workers. With each of you, I have collected cool memories — with Barret, when we had a fierce conflict about compute for what later became o1; with Bob, when he reprimanded me for doing a jacuzzi with a coworker; and with Mira, who witnessed my engagement.
I am in awe of the sheer number of GPUs... whose lives ChatGPT has changed.
If it was just this one line, this would be in the top 10 funniest things ever written around genAI. Too bad the rest of the rambling insanity ruins it.
I can't be the only one reading that super passive aggressively right? "Thank you Barret, whom I hated. Bob, for ruining my hot Jacuzzi date. And Mira, for existing."
just heard a podcast ad for amazon prime saying it causes "involuntary deal squeals" followed by a categorization of different kinds of customer grunts and squeals according to product. not making this up
I am sure this is totally not sketchy in the slightest and the people behind it have no nefarious agenda whatsoever.
Found a good one in the wild
Didn't you know LLM stood for Limited Liability Machine
Turns out trump really does understand cryptocurrency perfectly. Who’d have thought? Some folk seems surprisingly unhappy about this, though.
Maybe we’ll pay off the $35 trillion US debt in Crypto. I’ll write on a little piece of paper ‘$35T crypto we have no debt.’ That’s what I like.
Somehow I managed to mention the wordpress lawsuit on last week’s thread instead of this one, so let’s try again.
Matt Mullenweg, the wordpress(.)com guy and current owner of tumblr, tried to shakedown competing blog product WP engine (which builds on the same open source software that his company does) for 8% of their revenue (https://goblin.band/notes/9yjrc2logimd1tr3 h/t to froztbyte who was also on the old thread for some mysterious reason) or he’d say mean things about them at a conference where they were one of the sponsors. And they didn’t pay up, so he compared them to cancer.
And now they’re suing him.
https://notes.ghed.in/posts/2024/matt-mullenweg-wp-engine-debacle/
Mullenweg's the same guy who publicly harassed a random transwoman on Tumblr and had a general meltdown to the point where Tumblr staff had to distance himself from him, so I'm not shocked.
(That its Tumblr is the only thing that shocks me - you'd think he'd have realised its queer-friendly rep was one of the main things going for it)
Not a sneer, but some truly beautiful karma:
Judge to approve auctions liquidating Alex Jones’ Infowars to help pay Sandy Hook families
a twitter thread by sv ceo where comment section wants to do some recreational union busting, political assassinations and automating away longshoremen (lmao) over checks notes black friday bringing slightly less profit to mass retailers. to which i say, fuck your black friday then
and he says that it'll affect elections? specifically in "don't do anything visible in interest of unions or trump will win" kinda way? what kinda madhouse is this americans explain https://xcancel.com/typesfast/status/1836498432510562788#m
fuck your black friday then
the institutionalisation of it is/was also just fucking nuts
and then in recent years it's slowly been creeping out into other countries too, with other vendors in other places aping "black friday deals"
I have no mouth and I must scream
A lobsters states the following in regard to LLMs being used in medical diagnoses:
If you have very unusual symptoms, for example, there’s a higher chance that the LLM will determine that they are outside of the probability space allowed and replace them with something more common.
Another one opines:
Don’t humans and in particular doctors do precisely that? This may be anecdotal, but I know countless stories of people being misdiagnosed because doctors just assumed the cause to be the most common thing they diagnose. It is not obvious to me that LLMs exhibit this particular misjudgement more than humans. In fact, it is likely that LLMs know rare diseases and symptoms much better than human doctors. LLMs also have way more time to listen and think.
nothing hits worse than an able-bodied techbro imagining what medical care must be like for someone who needs it. here, let me save you from the possibility of misdiagnosis by building and mandating the use of the misdiagnosis machine
Also please fill in the obligatory rant about how LLMs don't actually know any diseases or symptoms. Like, if your training data was collected before 2020 you wouldn't have a single COVID case, but if you started collecting in 2020 you'd have a system that spat out COVID to a disproportionately large fraction of respiratory symptoms (and probably several tummy aches and broken arms too, just for good measure).
Do you think when the Trumps get paperclipped it will look something like this?
I have to go run an errand soon but someone better have posted some commentary about the a16z anime blog post (as seen on the hell site) by the time I get back or I'll be sorely disappointed.
Ok.
The usual lifecycle of an anime fan looks something like this: they are introduced to the format with great IP – the Attack on Titan anime or the One Piece live action show or one of the miHoYo games.
I don't know how things are in Japan, but I'll be damned if I ever meet someone who gateway series into anime was a live action adaptation of One Piece.
AI companions, an evolution of classic visual novels, are the most popular for anime characters and IP.
The most popular what for anime characters and IP?
Anime studios are adopting new AI technologies to create content faster and more cost effectively, but they are also iterating on new core loops with AI-native character interactions.
Some of them probably are. Screw them.
VTubing has transformed the way millions of anime fans interact with their favorite characters in new social and parasocial relationships by allowing any fan to roleplay as the characters themselves.
You can't just casually throw "social and parasocial" in there and then describe a purely parasocial relationship. Apologize to Shannon Strucci.
Also this is like saying television has allowed us to roleplay our favorite Radio announcers. They seem to be under the impression that the vtuber phenomenon is about people digitally cosplaying their favorite anime character together when it's more like an actor putting on a performance as an original character. And for the big ones, a bunch of Japanese style idol industry bullshit layered on top.
While audience inteeaction is usually a part of it, the nature of the medium remains highly asymmetric.
Ready to dive in? Let’s jam.
Keep Cowboy Bebop's name out of your filthy mouth.
Anime entered the mainstream in the 2000s with popular shounen anime like Naruto, One Piece, and now Attack on Titan.
I might be behind the times but even I don't think AoT is new. At least say Jujutsu Kaisen or something.
This affinity has led to one of the most popular use cases of AI recently – AI waifus and husbandos.
May all your subculture in-jokes die a dignified death before a VC firm references them in a blog post.
Waifu / husbando culture derives from visual novels, and AI companions are the logical extension of these animated storybook games.
"Mai waifu" was originally a funny engrish quote from Azumanga Daioh and was used to refer to any favorite character. The non tongue en cheek relationship simulation aspect merged with the meme later on.
Originally, visual novels were serialized books with anime-styled pictures in between.
This doesn't seem to be what the linked Medium article is saying and seems like they're just mixing up light novels and visual novels.
While there are many practical use cases for AI-simulated human interactions – AI as therapist, as teacher, as assistant, etc.
Practical, huh?
For instance, character.ai’s top characters are all from Genshin Impact; Raiden, Yae Miko, and Hu Tao take some of the top spots at 390M, 202M, and 113M messages respectively as of the time of this blog, compared to Elon Musk at a mere 40M messages.
To be fair I'd rather take almost anyone, gacha game character or not, other than Elon Musk as my conversation partner, whether simulated or real.
The majority of top anime games and visual novels are role playing games that feature a romance mechanic, and so it’s natural for fans to want to deepen their connection to their favorite IP and characters through active interactions.
Factually dubious claim aside, how hard is it to write "series" or at least "anime" like a real human being with feelings instead of "IP".
I've watched some anime series and felt things about them. I've never given a shit about an anime IP. Why would I, never owned one.
UGC Democratizes Creation for Anime Fans Anime is the new playground for content creation. Fans often engage with anime IP by creating their own versions of art, novels, and games, and innovation is happening across the stack.
Pixiv has existed for ages. Even before that was doujinshi, and people have made art, original and derivative, since before the beginning of civilization. Your idea of modding custom animu avatars for shovelware Love Plus sequels is not new.
There are a few notable reasons for the popularity of these games. The first is that there’s clear player demand against a shortage of high quality anime IP games; one example is Palworld’s recent success as the “Pokemon with guns” game, selling over 25M copies in a month across Steam and Xbox Game Pass.
Palworld is evidence of a lack of high quality anime games much like all nonblack nonravens are evidence of a lack of nonblack ravens.
The second reason is that the anime IP licensing landscape is notoriously difficult to navigate for developers, creating a potential undersupply of games.
It's actually incredibly easy to create and publish media based on anime and get away with it. You just can't do it too professionally. If you love democratizing art so much, go to Comiket.
Also there are tons of licensed games based on anime what the hell are you talking about?
Some startups like Kasagi Labo, Layer, and Story Protocol are tackling this issue to make IP more democratized and easier to access.
Misspelled "plutocratized" there. Also had a double take checking out the third one: "Story is the World’s IP Blockchain, onramping Programmable IP to power the next generation of AI, DeFi, and consumer applications."
Beyond UGC platforms, AI models and tools are enabling first-time creators to make compelling anime content that previously would only have been possible with a team of professionals.
I'm sure I will continue to be as thrilled as I have been up to now to see more art made by people who can't make art and filling the gap with statistical average of all art ever.
On the other side of the spectrum, professional game studios are leading the charge for high production-value consumer experiences that build on or create new IP. Anime games are some of the highest grossing in the games industry, accounting for 20% of spend on the mobile app store despite only having usage penetration of <3%.
Sounds great (not), but I heard someone say there was a lack of high quality anime IP games. Surely you can't both be right?
There are two ways that anime game studios broaden the horizon for players. First, they usually create the highest quality games of the most popular IPs like Dragon Ball, Pokemon, or Dragon Quest.
Consistency, what's that? Maybe invest in a bigger context window so you can remember what you generated a few paragraphs ago.
For now, we’ve been covering mostly free-to-play (F2P) mobile games. However, there are several successful PC/console anime games as well: Doki Doki Literature Club, the Persona series, the Final Fantasy series, the Fire Emblem series, and Phoenix Wright, just to name a few.
Doki Doki Literature Club is a fully original freeware pay-what-you-want indie game that became a viral sleeper hit. You're comparing it to Final fucking Fantasy? From a business perspective? Hell, despite the art style it's not even Japanese! The only connecting thread between these games is that they have vaguely anime style art in them.
Anime is also leading the way for digital play, turning previously passive consumption of linear media into a new dynamic form of entertainment.
It's really not.