this post was submitted on 10 Oct 2024
78 points (84.8% liked)

World News

32506 readers
809 users here now

News from around the world!

Rules:

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
all 27 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"Well, you see son, the perpetrators of that genocide were the victims of the largest genocide of the 20th Century, so nobody felt comfortable doing or saying anything."

[–] nednobbins@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

It's a bit more than "nobody".

https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/09/1154391

The problem is that the minority that is uncomfortable doing or saying anything is backed by half the worlds carrier fleets and thousands of nuclear armed ICBMS.

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 21 points 2 months ago

Grandson: What were you doing during the genocide?

Me: Probably making shitty memes about it.

[–] style99@lemm.ee 16 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I really wish people would learn the difference between begging the question and raising the question.

[–] Eggyhead@fedia.io 12 points 2 months ago

Colloquially, the phrase beg the question also has a separate sense as a synonym for "raise the question" or "prompt the question".

Well there it is.

That said, I’m glad you shared this as I hadn’t ever thought of it before.

[–] ISOmorph@feddit.org 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

In a day and age where the people are growing a part from they're own language, your asking alot of them. I guess it literally doesn't effect them much...

[–] subignition@fedia.io 4 points 2 months ago

This was a painful comment to read, well done. 💢

[–] SeekPie@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

*apart

*their

*you're

*a lot from

[–] ISOmorph@feddit.org 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You forgot *affect 😉

Also "literally" was meant as a double entendre, since we're speaking about words and that term is so often abused.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago
[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I’m not trying to be rude, but it’s “day in age,” not “day and age,” what would that even mean, lol

shhhThis is a joke

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

That’s what the spoiler is for. Note that I corrected one of the few correct things about that comment

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

A mistranslation from Latin versus the plain meaning that's also what everyone intends and infers. Wow. What a dilemma.

[–] arxdat@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago

I understand the frustration, but blaming individuals for a government’s actions, especially in 2024, feels misplaced. The reality is, many of us feel powerless to influence our own governments, let alone foreign policies, especially when it comes to complex international conflicts like the one in Gaza.

The U.S. government has entrenched interests and a long history of unconditional support for Israel, sustained by billions in taxpayer dollars. Despite widespread protests and public outcry, these policies seem nearly immune to change. It’s disheartening, but the truth is, most citizens have little say in how their tax money is used, especially on issues where both major political parties are largely aligned.

Voting every four years feels inadequate when the system itself limits real choices and perpetuates the status quo. Yes, we can protest, but even that has its limits. The mechanisms of government and foreign policy are beyond our direct control, leaving many feeling like we’re just along for the ride—forced to watch, speak out, and hope for change that rarely comes.

So while we share the outrage, it’s unrealistic to act as if we, as ordinary people, have the power to stop a war machine fueled by vested interests. The whole system feels like it’s rigged to keep us eating the consequences, whether we like it or not.

[–] nednobbins@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago

I've been thinking about this exact question recently.

My Austrian grandmother and her sister were working class teenagers during the war. They couldn't realistically have done anything to stop the Nazis. They didn't really do much to help but since they were seamstresses they secretly snuck the Jewish family in the building some sewing supplies. It wasn't much and they stopped when they were told that someone had reported them to the Gestapo. Their experience during the war was dodging bombs and trying to find something to eat.

None of that matters. When I was a kid growing up in the US people regularly made Nazi jokes as soon as they found out about my heritage. Nobody was willing to entertain any ideas that maybe those civilians shouldn't have been held accountable.

History judged all of Germany and Austria harshly. It judged the civilians harshly and it judged their descendants harshly.

https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/12/1144717
The world is watching.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Tanked the reputation of the Genocidal Apartheid regime as fast as possible.

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I don't know, I still want to do something but I don't think street protests are enough. And I am against violence.

With Ukraine I donate money, early on I donated for buying drones. With Palestine it's so bad that I think donations won't reach them.

Source: I grew up in 3rd world countries where pacific protests for teachers salary are common place but won't solve anything. I've also lived in another 3rd world country with strong unions where at least once a month there was a 1000 people protest in the main street in the capital, plus ad hoc protests that are much bigger, and that country is still sinking very fast.

[–] abbenm@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I know this is not the point, but "begs this question" is the oddest construction of that phrase I've heard yet.

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

“Begs the question” frustrates me. I know language changes, I know I shouldn’t be prescriptivist about this.

But it always strikes me as someone trying to sound smart and failing. They think it’s a fancy way of conveying something it didn’t mean (though now it does because people used it so much without knowing what it meant).

Just use “raises.”

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I wonder how future historians will compare the October 7th, 2023 and the April 19th, 1943 events.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com -4 points 2 months ago

the real question is what did you do to make it worse?