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[–] tomsh@lemmy.world 3 points 49 minutes ago

Is google recaptcha still only good option?

[–] dsilverz@thelemmy.club 2 points 36 minutes ago

Just a tip for the developer/sysadmins of loops.video, as a developer myself: Seems like loops.video has no DKIM or SPF configured (if that's the domain being used to sent activation links/codes), so the tendency is for most email providers to block the mail or move it straight to Spam folder. The situation worsens when many users try to sign-up for an account, so loops.video sends a lot of sequential emails (which is something that could be seen as "spam behavior" by email providers). The developer should ensure that mail delivery is properly configured, particularly the trust headers (DKIM and SPF, as mentioned before) needed for sending emails.

[–] 96VXb9ktTjFnRi@feddit.nl 10 points 1 hour ago

shorts are not my cup of tea. Pretty sure shorts have a negative impact on peoples attention span. I'd still be happy to see people watch their shorts on the Fediverse rather than at tiktok/yt. Of course, but still....

[–] zerozaku@lemmy.world 1 points 33 minutes ago

Why do I need to create a new account for it? At least it should let me sign in with pixelfed account right?

[–] Voltage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I tried to register on it but when they said they would give further instructions on mail, I did not receive it. Now when I try to create again it shows email and username is taken :\

[–] dsilverz@thelemmy.club 2 points 37 minutes ago

Seems like loops.video has no DKIM or SPF configured (if that's the domain being used to sent activation links/codes), so the tendency is for most email providers to block the mail or move it straight to Spam folder. The situation worsens when many users try to sign-up for an account, so loops.video sends a lot of sequential emails (which is something that could be seen as "spam behavior" by email providers). The developer should ensure that mail delivery is properly configured, particularly the trust headers (DKIM and SPF, as mentioned before) needed for sending emails.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 4 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

So, has anyone given it a try?

[–] AsudoxDev@programming.dev 6 points 6 hours ago

People seem to be waiting for the activation email

[–] dfyx@lemmy.helios42.de 4 points 6 hours ago

Kind of. All it shows for me is a registration form. When I submit it, they promise me to send an email with further instructions. So far, I didn't get anything. Honestly, they wouldn't have needed a countdown for that.

[–] MrSoup@lemmy.zip 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] MrSoup@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 hours ago

Now it's working.

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 24 points 16 hours ago

Storage costs is the biggest hurdle for decentralized video platforms. I wonder how instances will handle that.

[–] _NetNomad@fedia.io 48 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

i'm really interested to see where this goes. i feel like a lot of the dorks (i say affectionately as a dork) who use the fediverse and people who do this kinda shortform video are two circles that don't touch, so this could very well die on the vine- no pun intended- or it could give the fedi the jolt it needs to enter the mainstream

[–] OlPatchy2Eyes@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 hours ago

I didn't get on TikTok because I didn't like the content, not because of the format. If folks make good videos on Loops then I'm down.

[–] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee 27 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I'm really skeptical of its success primarily due to the immense costs of hosting video. Peertube exists already, and isn't nearly as successful as Mastodon/Lemmy primarily due to its hosting costs.

[–] jeffhykin@lemm.ee 5 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah I wish there was a way to contribute to the hosting with torrent-like seeding. My phone can seed a torrent, but its not going to host an instance.

1 like = seed for 1 month seems like an interesting model

[–] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Naah I thought about this before and came to the conclusion that this isn't that bright of an idea. Here's why.

Why's video hosting so expensive in the first place? Because it needs a lot of computational power, storage and bandwidth. All three things that a mobile phone does not have. If you make your client's mobile phone do this stuff, then you're going to slow down their phone, make it heat up more, make it degrade faster (because it would be drawing power from the battery) and take up a huge chunk of their bandwidth.

Think of how video calls drain battery really fast. It's just shifting the costs of hosting from the hosting side to the consumer side while making the entire operation a lot more complicated and a lot more inefficient.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Take out the phone part and allow users to host videos in a decentralised way on their home computers and it's a genuinely good idea though. I have a server running with plenty of storage and reasonable upload speed. I could easily dedicate a terabyte or so, as long as I'm not the sole hoster.

It would be a hell of a lot cheaper than dedicated hosting. The only issue is legal problems when someone is unknowingly hosting abuse material, which is something that happens from time to time on all services like this, and an individual could be done for distribution without the protection big centralised services have. You'd just have to hope mods are on top of it.

Actually something like a debrid service but for peertube might work. You can get huge amounts of storage for cheap because a lot of it is shared, you might ask them to host a huge torrent file, but most torrent files serve multiple users, so the cost is distributed. Peertube could work a similar way if it were more mainstream.

[–] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee -1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Sure! Remember though, that you are funding this project using your own money. How much does your server cost? How much does the electricity to run your server cost? You would need Gbps speed internet. How much does that cost?

You would be funding this out of your own pocket. Thank you for doing that! Would there be a thousand more people willing to do this? What happens if you lose your job? What happens to the server?

As you can see, this is not a technological issue, but a funding one. If you can generate funding for this somehow, you have a very viable model! IF you can find the funding.

I am saying that funding this would be difficult. I see people just yapping about FOSS, but not funding it when the time comes.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

What are you talking about? I don't think you understood the concept of decentralised torrent-like hosting.

I'm currently talking to a peertube hoster about server costs, which I may be able to justify to host my own videos plus a little extra to pitch in for others who can't justify the expense. Plenty of professional creators could easily justify it as an exit strategy or backup for youtube.

These conversations are happening, just not with you, presumably because you're just being negative about it and not actually doing something, so why would anyone bother to bring it up with you?

[–] Fitik@fedia.io 15 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I use TikTok (around a hour a day) and use the Fediverse too(Mbin and Misskey fork), so I guess I am a target audience, so they do touch, pfft

Also there's Pixelfed userbase, I think they would like short form video platform, cause Instagram has it

[–] Voltage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 hours ago

A lot of people watch short form content but sets of people who make short form content and who use fediverse doesn’t overlap for sure.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 23 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Hopefully it's time it's not postponed 😄

[–] AsudoxDev@programming.dev 12 points 20 hours ago

Fingers crossed

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Nice! I just wish it specified how short they're going to be.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 12 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 15 hours ago

new boot goofin'

[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 8 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)
[–] ReeSilva@bolha.forum 6 points 20 hours ago

Short enough for not be pants

[–] Fizz 13 points 21 hours ago

Finally a place to post my tom shelby sigma edits.

[–] P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br 7 points 20 hours ago (2 children)
[–] AsudoxDev@programming.dev 12 points 20 hours ago

A federated short video sharing platform. Basically YouTube Shorts or TikTok.

[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 14 points 20 hours ago

I think like federated TikTok/Vine

will it have direct messages? it would compete with snapchat a little too.