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[–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 18 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

What worries me is who's gonna buy it

[–] allywilson@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago
[–] Free_Thoughts@feddit.uk 6 points 5 hours ago

There's probably arguments to be made both for and against this ruling. I don't assume this is all good just because I don't like Google.

[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 20 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

"This landmark decision isn’t just about regulating a single company — it’s about standing up for fairness, competition, and a healthier internet ecosystem."

Then the DOJ should rule on what a monopoly is, and go after basically every big company. Take the oil markets for example. Give me a break, the DOJ is a joke, and probably took a bribe from Googles competition.

[–] kitnaht@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago

Guarantee Microsoft is funding this from a shadow shell corporation like all the other times.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 hours ago

Why do we always have comments defending these mega-corps. There's always the "what about..." people saying that something else needing regulating means this mega-corp shouldn't be regulated. How about any of it being regulated is good. We can hopefully get around to the other things eventually, but we can't do it all at the same time. (That, and Trump's adm. probably is going to put a stop to any of it, so just be happy that we've seen anything happen.)

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 25 points 10 hours ago

People who think this is going to really cause a disruption really did not live through the past thirty years of US tech companies being told to break up only to reform again, only stronger.

Google also got fuck you money to make upset politicians to disappear.

[–] plz1@lemmy.world 27 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Misleading headline. They have asked a court to force it, not triggered anything real, yet. Google will fight it hard because its one of their most powerful surveillance tools.

[–] itsnotits@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

because it's* one of

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 7 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

why would anyone buy it when it's primary profit-generating activity is driving traffic to google

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 hours ago

There's a lot of reasons to own it, one potential profit source being selling what the default search engine is. Just because Google doesn't own it doesn't mean they won't pay to be the default search. They pay a lot for this on Firefox. (Yes, this is being looked into to and may stop, but they can still sell being an option for the default search engine, or other things.)

[–] itsnotits@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Hupf@feddit.org 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] And009@reddthat.com 5 points 3 hours ago

Your left, my right?

[–] cron@feddit.org 82 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Is this case decided yet? If I understood the news correctly, they plan to force Google to sell its web browser.

[–] Mocheeze@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

This is just what the DoJ is asking for. Google will give their proposal in December. Then the judge will rule later in 2025. Then no matter what Google will appeal. Nothing is going to happen for years, if at all.

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

In Trump’s america google will have the easiest time getting what they want.

[–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 38 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think it is, the article doesn't say much beyond opinions. I also can't find any news talking about it being decided, just proposed.

[–] cron@feddit.org 16 points 13 hours ago

Thanks for checking. I didn't find any other recent news on this topic and the original article is from yesterday.

[–] MoogleMaestro@lemmy.zip 18 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Mixed feelings on this.

I'm not entirely sure the internet landscape will change that much with google selling the browser side of their business and might only result in less funding and security for web browsers as a whole.

I say this as a Firefox user, fwiw. I honestly don't think people only use chrome because google products work better on chrome. Frankly, I've never had a problem with a google service on a firefox browser.

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 4 points 9 hours ago

Yeah, for all people here complain about every web browser being chrome, the average web browser experience is so much better now than it was when Microsoft controlled the typical web browser.

Google is far from perfect, but the chromium project has resulted in a generally good browser. But I have serious doubts about the future of the chromium project in the hands of Meta or some other tech giant.

[–] AlternatePersonMan@lemmy.world 30 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Now name them sell YouTube... Or better yet, split it into multiple companies.

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 23 points 12 hours ago

Oh God I don't want my YouTube hidden behind multiple paywalls of varying quality. I agree that something should be done about it but it's frankly a miracle of inertia that YouTube hasn't been more aggressively monetized.

And yes, before anyone comments with "have you seen YTs monetization???!!?!!!!", I do in fact mean even more than the shit show it currently is.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 15 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

YT is the one I'm mixed on, on one hand, the ads are annoying AF if you're not premium and they're becoming more user hostile towards ad blocking every day

But on the other hand, hosting and providing bandwidth for video is not cheap. Hosting and providing bandwidth AND allowing users to upload whatever they want no matter the length (I think there's a limit of 10 hours, which is MORE than generous IMO) OR quality (seriously, who even has the setup to watch 8k videos lol) is REALLY NOT CHEAP

So who else other than Google can provide what YT provides at scale?

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

YouTube also lost billions for years and years. Not certain they've turned an overall profit yet.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 6 hours ago

I'm guessing it probably does. It brings in like $30,000,000,000+ a year. What it actually costs to run is seemingly a closely guarded secret, but I'd probably say it's a fair amount less than the thirty billion, since they aren't having to pay a third party company or anything for hosting any of it.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 21 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

To whom? Who will then fund Chromium? Also, what will happen to Firefox now Google can no longer fund 88% of Mozilla with their bribes?

[–] Damage@feddit.it 12 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (3 children)

To whom?

Monkey paw says Oracle

Still better than Meta

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 hours ago

Don't you put that evil on us.

[–] MoogleMaestro@lemmy.zip 6 points 12 hours ago

Monkey paw says Oracle

Still better than Meta

I'm not so sure about that one chief. I think they both suck pretty hard.

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 hours ago

Bruh can't they make it ots own company and then sell shares? (Prefarably without a majority shareholder) >!Or be forced to make it a nonprofit but that's too utopian thinking!<

[–] cron@feddit.org 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Why shouldn't they be able to pay apple and mozilla to select google as their default search engine? Will this also be prohibited?

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

~~It's been ruled in court. More details~~

Edit: nope, sorry, thanks to @Mocheeze@lemmy.world for correction

[–] Mocheeze@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Only Google being a monopoly has been ruled. The remedy hasn't been decided. And your article is very out of date because the DoJ hadn't even made their proposal then. That only happened this week. Google will give their proposal in December. The decision from the judge comes later in 2025. Then Google will appeal anyway. None of this is going to happen any time soon, and very likely it won't at all given the chances coming to the presidency and their stance towards this sort of government action.

[–] Foni@lemm.ee 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

The leading browser on the market? I don't know the price but I suppose any technology company with enough money. Regarding Chromium, it's another matter but I suppose that using it in so many browsers without development will not be

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 1 points 6 hours ago

any technology company with enough money

I know, that's the problem. They are all at least somewhat evil.

[–] ohellidk@sh.itjust.works 9 points 12 hours ago

cool, now do youtube

[–] parpol@programming.dev 5 points 11 hours ago

They should donate or sell chrome to the Linux Foundation.

[–] Undearius@lemmy.ca 9 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

This post talks a lot about Google's search engine. I'm curious how all the issues that were brought up about the search engine will be improved with the browser being sold off.

[–] deadbeef79000 1 points 13 hours ago

Decisions by people who don't understand, advised by people who don't want them to understand, funded by people who are prepared to sacrifice a browser to appear like they're doing something.

[–] BetaDoggo_@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

If they sell the browser how will the buyer afford to continue development? We either get more intrusive ads, tracking, or both.

[–] lychee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 14 hours ago

Wow. It's actually happening