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[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 130 points 3 days ago (4 children)

The worst thing about this is that housing is essential, while all the other things aren't. Scalpers only take advantage of other people's shopping addiction, while these so-called "investors" take advantage of other people's basic needs.

[–] phx@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'll add to that: The PlayStation etc scalpers at least give you a still-new product at the inflated price. The landlords rent it out for additional income and THEN sell it at a profit.

So it's more like buying a PS5 for $500, having somebody rent to play it for $100/mo, then selling it for $800 after a year

[–] lugal@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

This isn't even true were I live. Investors will buy new appartments and leave them empty and sell them a few years later. Renting them would decrease the value more than the income is. It's worse than you thought.

[–] ziggurat@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago

That's why they are held in higer regard

[–] BigBrainBrett2517@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

👏👏👏

[–] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

basic needs make good investments unless the government supplies a viable alternative.

[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] GiveMemes@jlai.lu 2 points 2 days ago

Unable to see the argument behavior. The government, the other commenter is saying, must provide a viable alternative in order to prevent this behavior.

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 150 points 3 days ago (20 children)

Housing is a basic human need, it shouldn’t be allowed to be only an investment. With the other items, you can just say “so don’t buy it”, which is not possible with housing, you have to pay for it, even of you wouldn’t like to.

[–] bunchberry@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

fumo is a basic human need

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 45 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)
[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 6 points 3 days ago

The commonality here is how expensive the things are. Scalping is another one of those things that's trashy if you're poor and classy if you're rich.

[–] bunchberry@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

It always impresses me how much people worship landlords, even Canada up there is having a housing crisis but nobody dares question the sanctity of landlords. You can watch both the major parties arguing for hours and nobody ever brings up landlordism once. A lot of them choose to instead become hostile to immigrants, both parties moving further right on immigration because stopping immigration or potentially even kicking out immigrants to them is more acceptable than questioning the sanctity of landlords. You also saw a similar thing here in the USA, I remember after the Trump/Kamala debate when they revealed the plans for bringing housing prices down and Trump was "mass deportation" and Kamala was "a tax credit." Not sure about every country definitely here in US and Canada, people here treat landlords like unquestionable deities, the idea that their right to rule should even be called into question is not even something that passes through most people's heads.

One thing that started here in New Zealand was reporting on and ranking their portfolio sizes (lots had it tied up in an estate or trust, but that connection was able to be reported on - even if it might be 'co-owned by the family').

We still have huge problems in this area but the noble few that don't 'stand out like a dogs bollocks' and all the others just looked like the same bunch of psycho/sellouts

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 93 points 3 days ago (3 children)

They're all pieces of shit and deserve to be kicked out an airlock into deep space.

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (8 children)

For 1-5 you can blame the people paying scalpers prices instead of just waiting.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago (11 children)

When scalpers buy all the tickets to a concert in milliseconds, and the only way to buy a ticket is through a scalper, why are you blaming the person who wants to go to the concert instead of the scalper?

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[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 42 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

There should be a hard limit of houses you can buy. Two by default (the one you live in and one you can rent to someone, maybe with a requirement that you need to live there occasionally) and an additional one for each child if he or she doesn't have one yet.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 56 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The problem is most houses are being bought by huge companies, not people.

[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We should really start by limiting that. If we start treating housing as a basic right, which we should, there's zero reason a company should be allowed to own housing to profit off of. It's a far bigger problem than my landlady who owns five flats. We can talk about limits for people like her later.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 3 days ago

For sure. But we don't even consider water a basic right and concede unlimited water rights to mega corporations before reserving water access to the local population. So I have no hope for that to happen with housing...

[–] OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 days ago

They are using advanced algorithms to find the best prices for in demand properties based on profit percentages. Its become so ridiculous corpos are buying houses before individuals can even bid or have access. They buy them in lots at a time. Even using the same algos to place offers on existing properties where people live. Its ludicrous.

[–] bunchberry@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In Cuba they have a law that requires you to sell your house if you buy a new one. That also means you can't be a landlord or else you yourself would be homeless. They also have a law that guarantees that if you don't own your own home, you at least get public housing guaranteed, which has rent capped at 10% of income so it can never exceed that. They have the lowest homelessness rate in all of the Americas.

[–] eatCasserole@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And they're guaranteeing this super affordable public housing all while under a comprehensive trade embargo for 60+ years imposed by the most powerful nation there is, who also happens to be their neighbor.

Never believe that housing "needs" to be expensive, it's 100% a decision made by people who profit from it.

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[–] einlander@lemmy.world 44 points 3 days ago

Scalper no Scalping!

[–] pixelscript@lemm.ee 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

At least in the case of fumos these days they're made-to-order. Buying 10 of them isn't snatching 10 of them from the carts of other potential buyers, it just means 10 more fumos will be made. If anything it's strictly increasing the supply and making them more accessible to people who couldn't make the preorder window.

This was absolutely not the case a few years ago, though. And just because you're technically not scalping doesn't mean you can't still wildly overcharge.

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Seeing alot of touhou in the fediverse lately.

[–] Piemanding@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Touhou will take over the world!

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[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This is how I learn there's a lego death star now?

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago

you haven't seen spider man?

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