patrick star from spongebob, labled "the media", holding a large watermelon, labled "unnecessarily straight characters", over a sleeping squidward, labled "every god damn movie", whose mouth is wide open

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[–] SARGE@startrek.website 101 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Every time my family brings up some character they believe "didn't need to be gay", I start bringing up movies I know they like that have unnecessarily ham-fisted romances that make no sense.

To all the people who think Pacific Rim would have been improved by Raleigh and Mako kissing at the end, you are wrong. There was 0 need for romance in a movie about giant robots beating the shit out of giant alien monsters.

Most action movies don't need their little romance subplots, yet they're everywhere.

Most movies would be mostly unchanged if you took out any romantic entanglement at all.

9/10 times, they're all unnecessary.

But if they're going to be crammed in, they should be representative. Lgbtq+ exist. They deserve representation.

My family has mostly stopped mentioning it around me.

[–] Makeshift@sh.itjust.works 35 points 3 days ago (2 children)

So much this. Why does every darn movie need some romantic subplot? This crap is everywhere. It’s like heterosexuals can’t imagine a goid story being possible without cramming some random love couple in. Why?? Why was random romance needed?

A disproportionate number of songs that are total bangers otherwise are also all the same topics on repeat. Soulmate love song, upset breakup love song. Do they not know there’s more things they could sing about?

[–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Hold on, do you think most music has romantic subplots?

Because the original argument is that a movie about giant robots fighting doesn't necessarily need a romantic subplot tacked on. It's not saying a Valentines Day romance movie needs to stop shoving romantic plots down our throats.

Maybe I'm just not well versed enough in music, but as far as I know, music producers aren't out there saying, "and now the big kiss... and moving on".

[–] misterdoctor@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago

Every major pop song now features a 2 minute interlude, spoken word only, introducing new characters and lore, almost always shoehorning in a love story that nobody asked for. Jack Antonoff must be stopped.

[–] dragonfucker 2 points 2 days ago

Unleash The Archers' concept album Abyss, the sequel to Apex, has a romantic subplot. Also it's gay. In the process of defeating the Matriarch, the Immortal falls in love with Earth and Ash, and then loses him. After the Immortal is freed from his curse, he hears Earth and Ash's voice in his head, telling him not to fall to the same corruption as did the Matriarch.

[–] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago

Ah yes those damn Hollywood ~~producers~~ heterosexuals ruining movies.

[–] Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

My friend and I had this conversation about anime and telling people ages of characters. Do I need to know that the MC is 27 and nearly a spinster? Not really, it doesn't make a lick of difference.

What makes it real weird is when they go out of the way to point out characters are teenagers in a clearly non-teenaged novel.

[–] dragonfucker 0 points 2 days ago

Yesterday drag watched Edge of Tomorrow. Do you think the romantic subplot in that movie has an impact?

Drag actually decided to watch the movie because OSP Red says the movie uses the romance to explore the isolation of being in a timeloop. Most characters who end up in timeloops are completely isolated. But while Cage is in a timeloop, Rita has already been in one before. Every loop, she's ready to be caught up by him on the plan and do whatever he says they need to do in order to win. But what she's not ready for is that he's falling in love with her, because she's the only human connection he can find. So their relationship is completely novel in its structure. That said, they could have just made a perfectly good movie about killing aliens in a timeloop without any romance. What do you think?

[–] friendly_ghost@beehaw.org 15 points 2 days ago

The straight agenda is fucking up our movies. Something must be done

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 61 points 3 days ago (4 children)

my homophobic mom returned a library book because a fucking talking plant wanted to be referred to as 'they' instead of 'it'

[–] misterdoctor@lemmy.world 50 points 3 days ago

Congrats to your mom on breaking ground as the worlds first transbotanophobe

[–] nicknonya@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 3 days ago

managed to be racist to a race that doesn't even exist. advanced racism

[–] festnt@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

talking plants exist??!? i wanna talk to one and learn what they think about veganism

[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I imagine they'd he in favour, seeing as animal consumption necessitates more plant foods than a vegan diet. Feeding calories to livestock and eating them is much less efficient than directly eating plants.

[–] dragonfucker 8 points 2 days ago

The fact that Poison Ivy hates vegans and thinks humans should only eat meat is evidence that her goals and motives aren't rational. Her argument is pure emotion, she hasn't thought anything through about what her goals would do to the plants she's trying to protect.

[–] festnt@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

but would a talking plant have enough intelligence to think of that? couldn't they even go as far as to hate the plants commonly used as food and thus like that more of them are being eaten? depending on the type of plant they are, the death of other plants could mean that the type of plant that the talking plant is could have better or longer lives after the death of those other plants

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Feeding calories to livestock and eating them is much less efficient than directly eating plants.

this is largely irrelevant, since most of the plants that are fed to animals are crop seconds or parts of plants that we don't want to eat. they eat, for instance, cottonseed, which we grow for textiles, and soy cake, which is a byproduct of soybean oil production.

aside, plants love spreading seeds. they probably think it's better to grow more of them.

[–] salvaria@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sounds awesome. I'm always looking for more books to read. What book was it?

[–] Getting6409@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

I'm not the op of the comment, but there is a good chance it is Semiosis by Sue Burke. It's such a fun read, and quite unique for several reasons.

[–] TheEntity@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago

This but non-ironically. Not every movie needs a damn romance!