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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 119 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Oh by fucking gods. It's loss. People are STILL posting loss. And here I was thinking this was a chemistry meme.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 16 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Personally I can't wait for this meme to be dead and forgotten

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 days ago

Like that baby

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, me too. I've never even read the webcomic. Can we please just forget about it already?

[–] nintendiator@feddit.cl 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That would be a loss for memory.

Loss will live until the last soulless, inspiration destitute and desperately unfunny aging millennial dies a miserable and ugly death.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 4 points 4 days ago

Carbonated loss

[–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 73 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Fixed the charge on your 3-methyl-3,4,5,5,6-pentaethyl-6-butan-2-yl decane ion, aka lossane.

(It's been a while since I last did chemistry, so apologies if I messed up the nomenclature a bit)

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 31 points 6 days ago

As someone who paid enough attention in highschool chemistry to get a B, and occasionally watches Nile(red/blue) and E&I videos.... I know some of these words/symbols!

[–] sga@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

actually we start numbering by minimising the number of highest order addition, which is the isobutyl, if it gets same number regardless, then we try to minimise the sum of numbers, so i think it should be called

5-(isobutyl)-5,6,6,7,8-penta-ethyl-8-methyl-decane (I am assuming hydrogen's are present, just not represented, because that usually is the case)

I may alo be wrong here, it has been 4 years since I have been required to do nomenclature myself

[–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Ah, my chemistry department taught me the other way around. I distinctly remember the phrase "methyl-ethyl" being thrown around a bit. Additionaly, we were taught to be more specific about isomers, hence me using butan-2-yl instead of isobutyl.

Then again, scientists often disagree strongly about things like this, so we could both be right. Also, there's a good chance this is just the A-Level specification being weird. I left my old textbook at my student flat, though, so I won't be able to check for a couple of weeks.

I could also be downright wrong myself.

As for the hydrogens, I had assumed they were not present, and that this lossane molecule is an ion with a charge of -50. This is borderline impossible to achieve in real life, of course.

[–] sga@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Now i remember we also had to specify what isobutyl (technically just 1 isobutyl exists (not counting stereoisomers), and other form would be tertbutyl). But giving highest priority and minimising sum were definitely something we were taught.

I was free enough to look it up this time - IUPAC guidelines for organic chem - https://iupac.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Organic-Brief-Guide-brochure_v1.1_June2021.pdf (or more generally https://iupac.org/what-we-do/nomenclature/brief-guides/)

Section 7 ( c ) Lowest locant(s) for principal characteristic group(s)

Although I also remember just as we completed our unit on nomenclature, all we got was "common names", now i was supposed to know of the top of my head what a cumene is (which I think is isopropyl benzene (not going to check this one)). Same thing happened with polymers, we were taught IUPAC, and then again, "industrial names"

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Any idea what a molecule like that would be useful for?

[–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Fuel? Hydrocarbons like that are quite combustible. It could also be incorporated into a lipid or something.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 50 points 6 days ago (6 children)

So ... What does this chemical make you lose?

[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 27 points 6 days ago
[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago
[–] riskable@programming.dev 11 points 6 days ago

Your marbles.

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Positive thoughts and other particles with a positive charge.

[–] Gutek8134@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

You lose nothing, don't worry about it.

On the other hand, you learn C (the programming language) by ingesting it, which would be considered a punishment by some.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 4 points 6 days ago

It makes you lose your way in a vast endless c

[–] nothacking@discuss.tchncs.de 42 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Assuming this has a 47 hydrogens stuck on to make it stable, I'd call it:

3-methyl-3,4,5,5,6-pentaethyl-6-buta-2-yl decane

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

dodecane has a 12 carbon chain. The longest chain here is 10 carbons, which would be decane.

[–] nothacking@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 5 days ago

Good catch.

[–] Sedathems@mander.xyz 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I am a total chem nitwit, would you like to explain me how you come to this ?

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It basically comes down to finding the longest chain of carbons, then you number each of the carbons on that chain and list off things that are attached to each of them. For example, 1 carbon = methyl, 2 carbons = ethyl, etc.

[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 44 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Couldn’t resist. In a more standard form this molecule should (I believe—chemistry has been a long time ago) look like this:

Made with MolView –https://molview.org/?smiles=C%28%5BC%40%5D%28CC%29%28C%29C%28CC%29%5BC%40%5D%28CC%29%28CC%29%5BC%40%40%5D%28C%28C%29C%29%28CC%29CCCC%29C

People knowledgeable in chemistry, please correct!

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 16 points 6 days ago

If I ever teach chemistry to kids imma tell them to name this

[–] AllToRuleThemOne@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Change/Invert the steric centers at 3 or 6 and it should be fine.

[–] don@lemm.ee 10 points 5 days ago

…is this gain?

[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 6 days ago

The urge to add hydrogens to all the carbons not fully bonded is overwhelming

[–] technohacker@programming.dev 21 points 6 days ago

(1,2,2,50)-loss-quinquagintinane

[–] Sabre363@sh.itjust.works 17 points 6 days ago

My stoned ass thought this was a shifter tree diagram of a goofy little manual transmission for a sec. All gears are just 'crash', lol

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 6 days ago

I somehow recognized it immediately. I think this meme has rewritten my brain.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Can someone explain this to me? I don’t get it, but I want to.

[–] burgermeister@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

OK how long until it kicks in?

[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

a few years and then you die of cancer

[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

*Cccccccccccccccccccccccccancer

[–] NahMarcas@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

3-metilhexa-4,5,5,6,7,7-etil-4-butil From the head, im feel happy now