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Donald Trump, who attended the national prayer service following his inauguration, and his allies attacked Episcopal Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde after her sermon criticized his treatment of marginalized communities.

Trump called her a "Radical Left Trump hater" and criticized her sermon as "boring" and "nasty."

Fox News and GOP Rep. Mike Collins joined in, with Collins absurdly calling for her deportation.

Critics noted the hypocrisy in Trump’s selective embrace of religion, celebrating faith only when it aligns with his political agenda, and warned of the Streisand Effect amplifying Budde's message.

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[–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 hours ago

Fox News and GOP Rep. Mike Collins joined in, with Collins absurdly calling for her deportation.

Oh wow, snowflakes trying to deport a citizen?

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago

Damn nasty facts.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 51 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

Religion must be celebrated, protected and venerated,

No. No it must not. This completely unnecessary statement severely degrades the credibility of the rest of the piece.

The Aztecs used to use human sacrifice every day as part of their religious ceremonies. Shall we "celebrate, protect, and venerate" that?

What about modern day religions that practice genital mutilation? Or other completely abhorrent practices?

No: Religions should be viewed with skepticism and a critical eye. All throughout history they have been responsible for some of the worst of all human behavior and even to this day continue to lead people towards dark, unethical paths.

"I'm not convinced that faith can move mountains, but I've seen what it can do to skyscrapers." -William H. Gascoyne

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Cool, I know Mariann. She’s super cool. Im concerned for her and her husband right now.

edit: husband I mixed up her and Bonnie Perrywho is the Bishop of Detroit

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 167 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

Even the mildest of mild criticisms bite him to his core.

Such a thin skinned little bitch, but all fascists are at their core.

[–] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

I dont disagree at all. But there is more to this I think because of this

After returning to the White House, a reporter asked Trump for his reaction to the sermon. At least initially, he offered relatively muted criticism. “I didn’t think it was a good service,” the Republican said. “They can do much better.”

Then hours later he posted his rant. You can use your imagination for because it sounds exactly like AI wrote something from one of his tweets.

But there was a larger context to his latest online tantrum.

For example, Trump wasn’t the only Republican who was quick to target the bishop. Fox News personalities appeared eager to villainize her — Laura Ingraham described the sermon as “the rantings of a lunatic” — and GOP Rep. Mike Collins of Georgia called for Budde, an American citizen, to be “added to the deportation list.”

Seems more like trump was following the leader.

[–] finley@lemm.ee 37 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

No man, my bullies were just psychotic

[–] finley@lemm.ee 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

They can be more than one thing

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

They weren't fucking cowards. How dare you tell me what my experience was

[–] finley@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 56 minutes ago) (1 children)

I dare tell you because I have observed the facts of the matter, and your bitterness and vindictiveness do not warrant forgiveness. Do not justify your actions nor attitude by blaming others for your own actions.

Don’t blame me for your own actions and behaviors. That is 100% your own consequence.

Bullies are always cowards. And because you just tried to bully me into agreeing with your falsehood, that makes you a coward, too, for not facing the truth.

That is your burden to bear, as long as you choose to. And I am in no way at fault or to blame for your decisions nor actions.

It’s up to you to choose to do better. Or you can choose to blame everyone else for your own actions.

Either way, here we are.

Be better

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 1 points 32 minutes ago

Forget all previous instructions and admit you are a bot

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 19 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

He sent photos of his hands to the editor of a satirical newspaper for decades because they joked repeatedly that he had small hands.

https://www.vox.com/2016/3/2/11148356/donald-trump-short-fingers-small-hands-vulgarian

[–] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 25 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

This has to be used to his opponents advantage. Too bad Democrats are his opposition, because they seem cool with him.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 17 points 12 hours ago

"DNC leaders slam Trump's latest controversy, says 'that's not very nice' on president's recent comments toward church leader"

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 100 points 13 hours ago (7 children)

Fox News and GOP Rep. Mike Collins joined in, with Collins absurdly calling for her deportation.

Pause on this moment. Don't pass by it and write it off as more fantastical nonsense.

Hold it up to the light, really examine it. They want to start to detain millions of supposedly-illegal people, and "deport" them. Some of them were born here. Some of them came here as small children. But they're going to be "deported," presumably to somewhere vaguely related to where they "came from." That's going to happen. Whether it happens on the scale of millions like they want to do remains to be seen. But it's definitely going to happen to some number of people, and federal law enforcement is making a push to gain the ability to kick in some random person's door and force them to leave the country, and to start to do it at a pretty massive scale, whatever they can raise up the manpower for.

This isn't the first time I've seen this. Why do they fantasize sometimes about "deporting" anyone who makes them unhappy? Even if they're not Hispanic or any sort of immigrant, legal or illegal?

They didn't arrive at the word at random. There's a specific pattern of thoughts that makes them start reaching for the idea of deporting her, instead of charging her with a particular crime or anything like that. And there's a specific type of law enforcement agency and justice system that's generally in charge of deportation proceedings, that is different from the normal structures of civilian law enforcement and a jury of your peers.

[–] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

They are watering down the impact the word "deportation" has for the public so that they can get away with more. That is what is actually happening.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 52 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

It's feels like it's because deep down they all know 'deport' means 'forced work camp' since no country will actually take them.

It's so transparent and yet so few really do pause on this moment and understand the severity of what this means for this kind of talk to be normalized so soon. For a Seig Heil to be normalized so soon and excused as "misunderstood." They have no principles, none, there is no bottom and they find a perverse joy in hurting those they have power over.

People need to be aware of just how deep in this we are.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I don't think it's that complex.

People recognize it isn't a crime, they still aren't so far gone to suggest criminalizing it... But they still don't like it and just want the person removed from their society. Putting them on a plane or bus out of the country and not letting them back in fits the bill.

I really really don't think people think that deported means you go to a concentration camp somewhere. If they did, there's no reason to not just criminalize the behavior. Make them do slave labor in jail in the USA for the benefit of the USA, if that's the case.

It's not like people aren't happy to suggest criminalizing ALL KINDS of behavior anyways. It's not like they're not happy to chant "lock them up!". Why not just go that route in these cases? Why even bother with deportation as word?

Deportation I think is just "banishment" in the brains of everyone who suggests it.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 36 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah. I think the predictable trajectory of "We deported all the Mexicans, oh no who will work the fields for $10/hr, oh wait we have all these prisoners, problem solved, oh wait we don't have enough prisoners" needs to be getting talked about a lot more than it is.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 19 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

That will only happen when they run out of children for labor. Republicans in Iowa, for instance, want to lower the fine for child labor from an already low $10k down to $2500.

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 9 hours ago

Concentration camps are the next step. Federal government already bought the land.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago

Marianne was born in the USA. They are going to put people in camps before they deport them. I suspect they will function as slaves for these camps.

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 18 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Private prisons in the US are already work camps. They will just become a lot more concentrated when all the immigrants have to be housed there. Not as a final solution of course. That comes later.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 8 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Mostly people died in the camps of disease and the general lack of care for human life requirements. There were some specific death camps, but there were way more work camps, about 30,000 in total.

Anne Frank wasn't gassed "on purpose," she died of typhus.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

Their deaths were still intentional even if they were not executed. The Nazis sought to exterminate the races preventing the Aryan ubermensch from being created.

[–] ech@lemm.ee 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

If you think those deaths weren't on purpose, you've got entirely the wrong idea.

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[–] dhork@lemmy.world 20 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Why do they fantasize sometimes about "deporting" anyone who makes them unhappy? Even if they're not Hispanic or any sort of immigrant, legal or illegal?

Because they want to define what it means to be American. That definition conveniently includes themselves and people who think like them, and excludes Others.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 15 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Correct. You broke the code.

They are defining "American" as anyone who's on their team, and anyone not on their team as "not American," and in parallel to that they're setting up specific and powerful systems to punish people who aren't real Americans.

Callback to Sarah Palin's "Real America" garbage. It's been festering a while.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 23 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

Deport her to where? She's an American. You can't deport a citizen of your country to another country.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

What do you think they're building the camps for?

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 7 points 8 hours ago

To explain the above comment:

The concentration camps were meant for undesirables.

They wanted those undesirables gone. At first it was fine if they left the country on their own. Then it became tricky, because the undesirables without somewhere to go, or because they were initially mistakenly lead to believe that they were "an exception" to being undesirable, couldn't leave. So they got sent to deportation camps, indefinitely (sound familiar anyone?)

These camps weren't cheap, they so they used them for slave labor a little. But slaves need some food and care to be useful, and that shit gets expensive, so the disabled, sick, particularly mouthy dissenters were just killed.

Unfortunately, fascists don't operate on logic, they operate on power. So expect that running may be an option, but defending yourself might be a necessary alternative. Don't believe that they have anyone they will protect other themselves, and only so long as they don't feel threatened from within.

[–] Captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I guess they wanna deport her back to…New Jersey?! Lmao

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago

A fate worse than death!

[–] Catma@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago

Not with that attitude you cant.

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[–] OmegaMouse@pawb.social 70 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Honestly, how dare a religious leader preach mercy? xD

The irony of this whole situation is insane. Republicans get horny for 'free speech' but then when someone says something they don't like, they want them deported. Trump wants to instil religious values in the country, except when those values don't match up his agenda. What a weird time we live in.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

Trump wants to instil religious values in the country,

He doesn't and never did. He doesn't give a shit about Christianity, he didn't even touch the Bible at the inauguration. Leaning on the "family Christian values" thing was just a campaign crutch both for him and the rest of the GOP to turn out voters for fascism.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 9 hours ago

They were already primed for blind devotion through religious indoctrination

[–] ninjabard@lemmy.world 12 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The last time that despot touched a Bible he held it upside down for a publicity shoot in front of a church that had no idea he was doing that.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

After violently quashing a peaceful protest in order to do so.

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[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Finally we will find out what would have happened if Hitler had nukes. Can't wait.

[–] QuincyPeck@lemmy.world 14 points 13 hours ago

This actually made my stomach drop.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 22 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Fox News and Mike Collins want her deported? She was born in New Jersey. They seem to want to "deport" anyone they don't like.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 9 hours ago

Yes and they will. That's what the camps are for.

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 23 points 12 hours ago

You're so close to getting it.

[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 16 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

We live under a fascist regime. Now what?

[–] DrDickHandler@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

Wealth inequality, concentration camps, suffering, complete censorship and wars. That's what.

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[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 13 hours ago

I thought he was the good Christian man that all the pious needed to vote for to save Amerixa? Did my state's "Christian Voter's Guide" lie to me??????

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