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[-] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 339 points 2 years ago

They only wanted to show the first page of a three page warrant because it was unsigned.

I did love this part.

At the same time, an individual with a loudspeaker — unaffiliated with the federal agents — shouted that Espinoza did not have to open the door to them without a warrant signed by a judge.

"Do not talk to them if they do not have a warrant," the individual said.

Other people who had been following the federal agents with megaphones called them "kidnappers" and "terrorists" and began chanting the words "say it once, say it twice, we will not put up with ICE."

I love that there is a crowd following around the ICE agents with a megaphone informing people of their rights.

[-] noxypaws@pawb.social 128 points 2 years ago

It gives me hope that folks are tailing ICE nazis like this.

[-] treadful@lemmy.zip 82 points 2 years ago

I'm honestly impressed. That's a brave position to be in.

[-] noxypaws@pawb.social 20 points 2 years ago

Yeah seriously. Boundless respect.

[-] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Yeah, gutsy as fuck.

[-] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If I ever see those fuckers in my neighborhood it'll be the final straw to get me on next door, the city's subreddit, and whatever else I can get my hands on. And I'm gonna warn as many people as I can.

I wish there was a more formalized group for it though.

[-] LMurch@thelemmy.club 96 points 2 years ago

Trump loves the uneducated. He likes his voters dumb and his victims unaware of their rights. Good for the megaphone crowd.

[-] kautau@lemmy.world 40 points 2 years ago

Also the classic fascist play to immediately start tearing down government agencies so people aren’t sure what their rights are at any given moment. As you said, props to these people with megaphones

[-] littlewonder@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

This is my new favorite fact. I'm so going to buy a megaphone if I find out ICE is in my neighborhood.

[-] samus12345@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

How do you show someone a signed warrant without them opening their door? Sure, you can open it a little and slide it through the gap, but what if you don't have a chain lock and are afraid they'll force their way in?

[-] smeenz 2 points 2 years ago

Hold it up to the window ?

[-] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Hold it up for them to see it through a window? Though in this case the person had already gone outside to talk to the ~~gestapo~~ er, ICE agents.

[-] SabinStargem@lemmings.world 4 points 2 years ago

This will make for a wonderful segment in a Behind the Bastards episode. If we get back onto a decent timeline, the crew will be able to offer up some of the most delicious absurdities.

[-] Seleni@lemmy.world 158 points 2 years ago

“They were a little hesitant about showing me the warrant, per se, but what I saw they didn't have a seal on it or anything,” he told the LA Times. “What is did clearly say was 'illegal alien.'”

Once he saw those words, he realized it was likely an immigration issue.

“It happened so fast,” he said. “I was taken aback, really.”

At the same time, an individual with a loudspeaker — unaffiliated with the federal agents — shouted that Espinoza did not have to open the door to them without a warrant signed by a judge.

“Do not talk to them if they do not have a warrant,” the individual said.

Other people who had been following the federal agents with megaphones called them “kidnappers” and “terrorists” and began chanting the words “say it once, say it twice, we will not put up with ICE.”

Hell yeah! Run those brownshirts out of town, LA!

[-] towelie@lemm.ee 41 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Hell yes that was an invigorating read! Those people following ICE agents around are HEROES. This also reminded me to get a megaphone.

[-] indomara@lemmy.world 115 points 2 years ago

The media would have you believe that no one is fighting back, this is because if you feel alone you are less likely to fight back.

The title of the article implies that it's just silly that a traffic officer was confronted at his house by ICE, but what really matters in this article is the people following those ICE agents with megaphones.

They are doing what is right, while taking personal risk, and their bravery should be spread far and wide, so others will be emboldened to act.

There are always good people, there are always those who will fight, you are not alone.

[-] Chivera@lemmy.world 61 points 2 years ago

Time to follow them around with loudspeakers while also open carrying.

[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago

Waaay illegal in Los Angeles

[-] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago

That's not stopping a whole lotta people

[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

Concealed sure, but I don't think I've ever seen someone open carry in LA.

[-] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago
[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Wasn't that from the Rodney King riots in 1992?

[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

So is attempting to search a house without a warrant

[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

That's that funny thing about laws and selective enforcement

[-] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

There are several exemptions to the prohibitions against carrying an unloaded handgun in public under California Penal Code Section 26350 PC. Any person who has a been granted a concealed carry permit (“CCW”) under California Penal Code Section 26150 PC or California Penal Code Section 26155 PC would be allowed to openly carry their firearm while in a public, non-prohibited place.

[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

While I can't find the specific ordinance at the moment, I'm about 95% positive that LA County has a law on the books prohibiting open carry, even unloaded (including replicas), even with a CCW. There are exemptions for law enforcement and while filming a permitted movie/tv show. Typically, local ordinance will supercede state law in situations like this here in CA.

That all said, I wouldn't be trying my luck against the LAPD/LASD lol.

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

That all said, I wouldn't be trying my luck against the LAPD/LASD lol.

They already shot someone's dog just because you mentioned them.

[-] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago

I've never understood why it is legal for law enforcement to lie and attempt to trick people. I get needing undercover cops to be able to lie. But anyone not officially under cover should not be allowed to.

Because the police exist to protect capital, not people. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bmaoNLSHx_w

[-] ubergeek@lemmy.today 12 points 2 years ago

I never understood why uniformed officers need to always cover their faces, even in broad daylight...

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago

Ohhh, someone needs to lose a job, for sure. The standard for process compliance needs to be 100%.

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