These people don’t understand that France and all these places have “fresh/safe food” (big generalization but let’s just take it as face value) because they have so many fucking regulations. Countries like that use their FDA-equivalents to heavily dictate what is and isn’t ok to feed people. RFK Jr. and his ilk have spread this bizarre, implicit and never outright stated lie that less regulation will lead to healthier and better food.
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...spread this bizarre, implicit and never outright stated lie that less regulation will lead to healthier and better food
Wait. Are you telling me that the lack of regulation that allowed companies to put sawdust in food was a bad thing? Forcing them to sterilize food, report nutritional info, and use edible ingredients is good for consumers?
/s
our ~~FDA~~ federal oversight of the food industry was already captured by industry. Have you seen that they feed piglets other pigs shit instead of just giving them antibiotic shots because it's cheaper? We have no eggs because we are the stupid country that doesn't bother to innoculate chickens.
we aren't going from good to bad we are going from bad to worse.
The FDA has nothing to do with either of these topics.
Feeding a fecal slurry to inoculate piglets is practical and typically directed by a company veterinarian due to a viral disease. Judicious use of antibiotics is directed under a VFD by the FDA and would not be applicable in this case because in most cases viral diseases aren't treated by antibiotics.
Georgia, one of the top egg producing states in the US along with several other states were hit hard with avian influenza. The density of the US poltry industry (proximity of large farms in a small area) combined with migratory water fowl and a rapidly mutating virus is why we have no eggs. There is currently no effective avian influenza vaccine.
Please stop spreading misinformation.
you're defending feeding piglets shit.
i appreciate the correction on the agencies but you can fuck right off
I think you misunderstand. I'm not defending anything. I am clarifying that its not just shoving pig feces at pigs for no reason or for cruelty. They are feeding fecal material to prevent mass mortalities from disease.
Its not unlike fecal transplants in humans. Are you angry at that as well?
Exactly. I can't stand the whole vote with your dollars bullshit that the organic food people put out there. Fuck you. I want there to be rules and regulations saying you have to grow food without harmful pesticides. I don't want it to be a choice. I want my laundry detergent to be free of dyes and fragrances, and not harm the water supply. I don't want to have to pay extra for it. I want it to be the standard. The only way to get there is regulation.
The organic food people just use different pesticides. "Organic" is all a marketing scam.
This is an oversimplification. It is true that organic farmers are permitted to use certain chemicals on their crops, but the allowed substances are very different in terms of ecological impact compared to conventional chemical treatments (conventional chemicals and their breakdown products generally persist in the environment much longer).
Organic farmers are also required to try to manage pests without chemicals first, steering the organic industry towards "integrated pest management" where very small amounts of pesticides are used in a highly targeted manner.
https://www.usda.gov/about-usda/news/blog/organic-101-allowed-and-prohibited-substances https://www.pubs.ext.vt.edu/ENTO/ENTO-384/ENTO-384.html
I don't see anything backing up your alternative insect control claims, but it really is just a different batch of pesticides on wide use.
https://www.agdaily.com/technology/the-list-of-pesticides-approved-for-organic-production/
Here is an excerpt from another source summarizing the requirement for integrated pest management:
"These plans address three levels of pest management. Level A is based on the expectation that a well-designed and healthy organic system will naturally have fewer pest problems. It focuses on pest and disease outbreak prevention practices such as cover crops, crop rotation and providing habitat for ladybugs and other beneficial insects.
If Level A practices are not sufficient, Level B focuses on the introduction of insect predators and parasites, mulching, grazing, mowing, solarization and other mechanical and physical practices.
If additional pest management is needed, Level C includes the use of natural and synthetic pesticides on the National List."
Also, the list you have linked is so so much less bad than the list of allowed chemicals for conventional farmers, which I can't even find online... Best way I have found to view it is here: https://ordspub.epa.gov/ords/pesticides/f?p=CHEMICALSEARCH%3A46::::
Bottom line is that conventional pesticide use is much less transparent and less tightly regulated.
Not always. Some of their food is just full of eggs/ larva that will erupt into an entire colony that takes over your whole damn kitchen!
Source: Stuck my dick in crazy.
Well now you gotta go into detail. You can't leave us hanging
I dated this chick that was way into holistic all natural whatever. I swear you could put anything in a cardboard box or other plain packaging with "organic" on the side and she should buy that shit and than post about it changing her life..
Anyway, she had some mixed nuts or some such completely unopened. Left that shit in my cupboard and I swear not even a week later my place was full of moths!
It took days to even figure out where they were all coming from. Just suddenly it was end of days in my house. She came back over at some point and was like wtf is going on with these bugs!?
I forget which one of us found it but dude, that container was jam packed with life. Like a whole ass ecosystem in there one by one squeezing it's way out through a tiny crack in the container! Fuckin Nasty!
With the source removed it still took a week or two for the place to be free of the damn things.
She sure could suck a dick tho!
Yeah that's a known problem with less treated food. For this kind of food (nuts, rice, granola, etc...) a good way to avoid the "packet bursting with life" situation is to keep it a few days in the freezer as soon as you get it.
It kills a good chunk of the pests.
And also keep it in a sealed container like a glass jar. That way bugs don't find a way IN through the crack in the packaging. I have to do both freezer and container with my flour otherwise I get bonus weevil protein in my cakes. The joys of living in warm humid climates! Edit: a word
10/10 you are hired
Its almost like the regulations existed because the food was unhealthy. Not that the healthy food was just borne out of some struggle after regulations. The regulations are the cause. THE FUCKEN REGULATIONS ARE THE CAUSE.
I hesitate to side with one anti science group over another. Why aren't real farmers doing the right thing?
Because you have to produce as much as possible if you are to compete with the corporate farms. This means for example maybe using the scary dangerous pesticide allowing the farm to get the greatest yield, they'd rather not, but the alternative is their farm goes under.
If things were regulated (and enforced), then corporate farms are disincentivised and farmers would produce safer food for consumption.