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[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 210 points 1 year ago

According to the Pew Research Center, 69 million women who have taken their spouse’s name do not have a birth certificate matching their legal name and could find it much harder to register to vote under the bill.

So, among other things, this is a step towards the Republican goal of denying women the vote.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 70 points 1 year ago

Women of course, but also poor people and immigrants are far less likely to have all of the requisite documentation. Plus it's an opportunity to snipe at transgender people.

[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 year ago

Also, I’m adopted…

My name was changed in the decree and not on my birth certificate.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago

I changed my last name cause I ain't being called the name of my fucken rapist.

[-] Kookie215@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I work with the homeless all over the country and the most common theme is that they rarely have all the paperwork to get their ID.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I talk to a lot of people who think voter ID requirements are no big deal, because they have always had an ID. They cannot fathom anyone living a life that doesn't conform to their experiences.

[-] ShittDickk@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Honestly i'm gonna laugh when the 2nd gen immigrant vote turns out because they all have passports to visit family.

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[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago

GOP: Putting the "suffer" back into suffragette

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Then the suffragettes should just go back to the terrorism they chose to abandon at the start of WW1.

No taxation without representation, you fascist cuntrags!

[-] flicker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 year ago

Every time some liberal recommends peaceful protest, I yell that MLK Jr. couldn't have got where he got without Malcolm X, that Stonewall was a riot, and if someone takes away my right to vote, I'm going to behave in the way that got my foremothers the right to vote!

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[-] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 78 points 1 year ago

I can't WAIT for Chuck Schumer And His Democrats to do LITERALLY NOTHING to Stop this or Slow it Down in ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM!

[-] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago

"We've tried nothing, and we're all out of ideas. They win this round, but we aren't giving up, and will continue to resist all efforts to end their reign of terror. Send money."

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago

"So we took the money and did nothing with it to stop Trump. Another $5 this time will surely let us kick the football, Charlie Brown. Give us your paycheck, so we can stop Trump, unlike the last 8 years!"

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 year ago

Here he and Jeffries are now:

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

Apparently the bill passed already.

[-] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

Passed the house not the senate. The filibuster in the senate is the main hurdle for the bill. That's what requires 60 votes meaning it'd take at least 7 votes from dems

Dems have shot plenty of things down this term via the filibuster though the CR was a notable horrible exception. For instance, they successfully filibustered an anti-trans legislation earlier in march. There is no threat of a shutdown here if they don't let this bill get through. It's a tall order for it to get through. Still call your senator and tell them to vote against cloture for it

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[-] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

Theyre actually passing bills? That's adorable that they think they are actually doing something. They havent realized that we've entered the era of Ruling by Executive Orders, and their jobs are only ceremonial.

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[-] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We got married in St Lucia back in the 90s, and we've been trying for several years to get a copy of our marriage certificate so my wife can get her ID updated. We've sent them the money ($10) several times, filled out all the proper documents and followed all the rules (which have changed a few times), and then we hear nothing. After a few months, we try again. There is no option to do it online.

At this point, we are seriously considering getting her a legal name change through the American courts. It will be more expensive, but at least it will work.

I would advise any woman who is getting married to keep her own name, and not change it to her husband's. Dont even hyphenate it. Changing your name is a stupid old custom anyway, I cant believe feminists didn't go after it long ago.

[-] roscoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Is going down to the courthouse and getting married again not an option? Not that you should have to do that, just curious.

Edit: I mean your local courthouse so you don't have to deal with this anymore.

[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 11 points 1 year ago

Just going in person to get the certificate might be worth it; no need to get married again. Just raise hell at the county clerk's office.

[-] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

The Marriage License is held in St Lucia, a Caribbean island nation. While I would love to go down there to get it in person, I don't have the budget nor the time to do that right now.

[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 11 points 1 year ago

You can just go to your local courthouse and say "we would like to be married" and they will issue a valid US marriage certificate you can then send on to Uncle Sam. No beed to get St. Lucia involved at all. Legally you'll be married on that date, but you don't have to change your anniversary or anything.

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[-] MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago

I got married in 1976 and didn't change my name. My mother cried when I told her. "People will think your children are illegitimate!" At work I had to go to HR and explain, they acted like I had lost my mind.

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 7 points 1 year ago

What? Wouldn't HR thank you? I know IT would be praising you for making their job easier.

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[-] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 52 points 1 year ago

As a trans woman who both legally changed her birth name AND took her husband's last name when getting married:

[-] nutcase2690@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago

Make sure your passport is up to date!

[-] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

You really haven't been paying attention, have you?

[-] match@pawb.social 27 points 1 year ago

I'm updating my (legally changed) name on my passport this week and two random cis acquaintances related stories about how they know a trans person whose documents got "taken" by the feds

wish me luck

[-] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago
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[-] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago

And nothing will be done about it.

[-] zephorah@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago

There’s no agency to ride to the rescue. It’s just the government and We The People, for better or worse.

[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

I'm sure that Schumer and Jefferies will be looking for a nice bipartisanship solution to deny women the right to vote here.

[-] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Composing a sternly worded letter as we speak, which only 75% of the Dems will sign.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 8 points 1 year ago

Maybe saint Luigi will visit us.

I don't think we're going to see any lasting improvements unless the Republicans are forcibly removed from power.

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The bill would create criminal penalties for election officials who register any noncitizens, even if they did so by mistake

Creating a job that no sane person would ever want to take. The people who do take the job will be overworked, since their office will always be understaffed, and they will tend to err on the side of caution and deny registration as the default.

How about also creating criminal penalties for election officials who refuse to register any citizen, even if they did so by mistake? /s

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[-] Ledericas@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago

4 DINOs also voted for the bills, apparently there are in red districts.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Dems pretending to be Republicans so they don't lose their jobs always, always, always works. Just ask anyone serving in a Texas/Florida swing seat.

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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

While I consider it evil to exclude legal voters from voting, I cannot wrap my head around the point that about 9% of American citizens cannot prove their citizenship. At least the tax office should know about them, shouldn't they? Or are they "invisible" to the system to avoid getting taxed?

And that they cannot match a person to a birth certificate just because that person got married is such a colossal bureaucratic failure that it is hard to believe. Don't they record marriages anywhere?

[-] match@pawb.social 21 points 1 year ago

paying taxes has nothing to do with citizenship, even noncitizens pay taxes

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[-] dryfter@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago

Transgender people have that exact problem right now, even with passports. They effectively cannot prove they are a citizen even with a birth certificate because of Trump's executive orders.

I only have an enhanced NY state driver's license. I don't have Real ID or even a passport. While I'm male and identify as male, I don't have my birth certificate. If they require something like Real ID, passport, or birth certificate the likelihood of me voting pretty much becomes nil. I don't drive, rely on public transportation, and would have to go to a county office and hope I can give them the right information to get a copy of my birth certificate.

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[-] Ledericas@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

most of them likely dont have thier birth certificate, updated passports, or thier marriage certificate on hand. its actually quite a hassle to get a passport, even more for naturalized citenzenship, its the point that gop knows, its inconvience as hell if you have FT job. you also need valid proof of to even get your citizenship or passport.

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[-] selkiesidhe@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

Are we at the point yet where we are openly called a dictatorship and humanitarian forces start stepping in...?

We need an outside group to handle our elections because a third of our country is so fucking corrupt it's VILE

[-] SuperCub@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago

When are the Dems going to actually care?

[-] Franklin@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm not trying to be negative but what are the Democrats supposed to do in this situation?

They have none of the levers of power because they were voted out of them.

again I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm a Canadian so there may be a gap in my knowledge about things within their power

[-] TheFudd@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

The reason people are angry is because when things are reversed and Republicans "don't have the levers of power", they don't let that stop them from getting their way. No, Republicans figure out a way.

Republicans will come up with some obscure rule or law from the 1800s, or bribe/threaten Democrats in swing/conservative areas to join them, or not allowing a vote on something via underhanded means, or whatever.

Hell, just look at Mitch McConnell denying Obama a Supreme Court seat. That was illegal. McConnell got away with it. Not only do Democrats refuse to stoop as low as Republicans to get what they want with their "when they go low, we go high" BS, but Democrats won't even put up a fight when the Republicans are clearly in the wrong.

That's why so many people are saying, "Do something!" to Democrats. Because we all know that if the parties were reversed, Republicans would damn well be doing something, even if that 'something' is illegal or just plain morally wrong.

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[-] stringere@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

4 of them voted for the bill

[-] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Republicans are worried and nervous. Kicking up a big fuss, saying that Republicans are destroying the country and unpatriotic, marching in the streets and promising to raise millions to run against anyone who votes for these unpopular bills, makes the republicans back down. We see it time and again.

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[-] DeusUmbra@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Don't worry, next time around we won't be voting with ballots. We'll be voting with something a lot more effective at removing Nazis from power.

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