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Remind me which states pay all the fucking taxes again?
Can we just get to the Civil war part of this timeline already, I’m fucking tired man
I realize I'm making some optimistic assumptions about the durability of our election apparatus, but if we can't get a shift in power at the midterms I suspect the fascist in chief will accelerate his rate of attacks on freedoms and it won't be long after that. I predict we make it no later than slightly past the midterms before hitting that point unless there's a big shift on the congressional side of things.
Not so much because I think people will take to the streets with that in mind, by the way, but because tensions will be so high that somebody somewhere is going to make just the wrong mistake, some people are going to die or get badly hurt, and it's going to set things off from there.
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The civil war has already started- and the “opposition” seems pretty content to spend the first stages allowing MAGA to set up the battlefields and terms of engagement to their liking.
It never ended. The side that thought it won just stopped fighting.
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If there is a civil war, I'm sure the enemies of the US would rejoice. It's like that onion article that's like "al queda decides to sit back and watch US destroy itself".
But aside from that, I hope the conservatives lose. And I hope after they lose, we learn from history. Don't just let them come crawling back into power like after the first civil war. The ultra rich and their lackeys need to be removed from power, and kept out.
Then again, the 14th amendment should disqualify Trump and a bunch of the republicans, and that doesn't seem to matter.
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It’ll be super fucked if we do. If it’s left vs right you’ll have most of the major cities besieged by rural folk. If it’s state on state, Red and blue states both will have to “secure” vast swaths of their populations or suffer constant sabotage.
This isn’t as easily cut and dry, north vs south, as the US civil war was. Modern civil war would be a hell of destroyed cities and slaughtered or starving innocents. Just look at all current conflicts. You may be tired now, but it’s nothing compared to the reality of what USCWII would be.
Closest analogous conflicts I could imagine would be when the us bombed eastern europe. Urban areas would be bereft of food and incoming supplies, rural areas would be bereft of most foods and incoming supplies, and everyone devolves into roving gangs and desperate attempts to fortify an area of 'trusted' neighbors.
Reading the first hand accounts of what people went through is enough to make me horrified whenever anyone talks about the possibility of a civil war with glee. They don't have the imagination or the knowledge to comprehend what neighbor vs. neighbor really looks like.
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This is what always blows my mind. All these states with leadership bitching about mooching off the federal government are exactly the states which mooch off of the federal government, because their states produce literally nothing.
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Mine pays for a huge number of them. California.
We're going to vote on whether we want to seriously pursue succeeding from the US in 2028. If this shit doesn't stop, I imagine things will slowly fall apart in this country.
California recently (this year, I believe) became the fourth largest GDP in the world, previously the fifth.
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He’s saying he wants to make that imbalanced dynamic worse than he did last time. It’s a comically nihilistic strategy - or at least, it would be, if I didn’t live in one of the bluest states in the damn country
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I think the blue states should cut all the funding they provide for the government.
balkanization of the united states plays right into putin's best interests. how about we just stack conservative bodies until this country stops being so fucking stupid?
It's too late for that. Everyone is finding the exit for the USD as the reserve currency. That loss of soft power alone is seismic.
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Even just CA would absolutely make an impact.
California secession / Calexit would be beautiful. That is how I know it would never happen, even as rest of the US collapses into Gilead.
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“The United [sic] States.”
The Segregated States of Americans, nee United.
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Time for blue states to stop paying federal tax, then.
That must be comforting to hear to republican citizens living in those blue states.
All those red districts in blue states, get ready to get screwed. Trump ain’t helping you.
Unless you're in the top 1% of wealth, he isn't helping you either.
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Time for articles of impeachment. Or secession.
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Let me sure I got this right. Your plan is to take states that don't like you and teach them to be more independent of the federal government, is that correct?
You think he has a plan?
Perhaps concepts of a plan?
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I live in NC. We have a Dem governor, but the House and Senate are controlled by Republicans. The state has gone to Trump three times. What is his plan with that?
His plan, no matter what he says, is to fuck each and every one of us who isn't already rich and preferably white.
Woah you look like an immigrant with this statement. Careful about ICE
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Blue states cut off those wankers
They've been stupid and malicious for too damn long. Let them eat their own shit
Divided States of America (DSA)
Untied states of America
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You want Boston to throw another tea party? They're game.
No taxation without representation motherfucker.
That means I don’t have to pay federal taxes for it right?
And whenever it’s Democrats in power they have to kiss Republicans’ ass.
No, they treat all Americans as All Americans. Which is apparently a fucking unbelievable concept.
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Note that there’s no claim of it helping any people or benefitting constituents, even his own. In this world of narcissism, there’s only “what’s in it for me?” And “how to spite anyone who disagrees with me?”
He's a literal traitor.
Americans are just too stupid to see it in anything but hindsight.
Assuming the fascists don't win and rewrite history, he will be considered a traitor in the history books.
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I don't think he realizes this isn't the gotcha he thinks. That means the poverty line between the states that already exists is going to get even worse, because they are taxing the lower income brackets even worse.
Let's fucking Balkanize already. My blue state has all the nukes and I would love to use them on Trump and his red-state dick sucks.
I hate that we're literally funding them to drag us all back to the dark ages since the blue states receive less than they pay in taxes and vice versa with the red.
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What a fucking cunt.
and we should have seceded and stopped paying fed taxes a long time ago.
at least im doing my part. I can cheat my ass off on my taxes and take payments under the table. they'll be none the wiser. especially now that they've gut the IRS. If that hurts the blue state i live in, fine. like i said, we should have seceded already.
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