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[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 293 points 1 year ago

Fake and gay.

No way the engineer corrects the mathematician for using j instead of i.

[-] LeFrog@discuss.tchncs.de 52 points 1 year ago

As an engineer I fully agree. Engineers¹ aren't even able to do basic arithmetics. I even cannot count to 10.

¹ Except maybe Electrical engineers. They seem to be quite smart.

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 45 points 1 year ago

Engineer here, I can definitely count to 10 tho

0 1 10

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[-] gnutrino@programming.dev 32 points 1 year ago

Electrical engineers are the ones that use j though (because i is used for current)

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[-] thomasloven@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

10? That’s the name some put to 1e1, right?

[-] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Except maybe Electrical engineers.

Yup, I can count just fine to the 10th number in a zero-indexed counting system: black, brown, red, orange, yellow, green, blue, violet, gray, white.

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[-] Hoimo@ani.social 39 points 1 year ago

How do we know it's gay though? OP could be a girl (male)

[-] SippyCup@feddit.nl 59 points 1 year ago

Because it's 4chan. And there are no women on the Internet on 4chan

[-] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 year ago

Sure OP is a girl. Guy In Real Life

[-] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Newfag.

(sorry! seemed like the appropriate 4chan reply)

[-] kogasa@programming.dev 20 points 1 year ago

The mathematician also used "operative" instead of, uh, something else, and "associative" instead of "commutative"

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[-] TheSlad@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago

Right? They got that shit backwards. Op is a fraud. i is used in pure math, j is used in engineering.

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[-] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 year ago

My thoughts exactly lol

[-] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 148 points 1 year ago

Wait bottom mathematican is using j=√-1 instead of i and not the engineer? Because I'm EE gang, and all my homies use j.

[-] GandalfTheDumb@lemmy.world 66 points 1 year ago

That part also got me really confused. All the mathematicans I know use i while engineers use i or j depending on the kind of engineer. I've never seen a Pikachu engineer using anything other than j.

[-] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 year ago

Pikachu engineer

That's a fucking favorite now. Keeping that in my back pocket.

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[-] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 1 year ago

The fun starts when you study quaternions

i^2 = j^2 = k^2 = ijk = −1

[-] pticrix@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 year ago
[-] HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 year ago
[-] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 19 points 1 year ago

(...I think you may have gotten whooshed...)

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[-] codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It gets worse actually. You can define a number system using any power of 2 amount of i-like units in a similar relationship to quaternions using the Cayley-Dickson construction

Fascinatingly, you lose some property of the algebra at each step. Quaternions aren't commutative: ABC != CBA. Octonians aren't associative: (AB)C != A(BC). Once you get into 16 i's with subscripts, it really gets crazy.

(Also, I just got the joke. Damnit @HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone your serious answer threw me off!)

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[-] bisby@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I agree. Clearly i is current. What is this i=√-1 nonsense.

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[-] _stranger_@lemmy.world 85 points 1 year ago
[-] Seasm0ke@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Well done, truly

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[-] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 78 points 1 year ago
[-] AnarchoEngineer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 year ago

I’m a mechanical engineering student with a math minor and I’m a switch so yeah, I’d take either side of this

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 77 points 1 year ago

Is anyone doing anything tonight?

[-] serenissi@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

no, d..do you have a plan?

[-] Randelung@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Something something distance calls for norm, not just squares.

||i||² + ||1||² = 2

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[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

operative?

Also mathematicians use i for imaginary, engineers use j. The story does not add up. I have never seen a single mathematician use j for imaginary.

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[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 45 points 1 year ago

Me, a language/arts person: "Huh?"

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 1 year ago

This is the kind of brat I can get behind. 😏

[-] _g_be@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago
[-] Almacca@aussie.zone 31 points 1 year ago

I have no idea what they're talking about, but I do love a happy ending.

[-] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 29 points 1 year ago

As a physicist I can't understand why would anyone complain about a +jb or $\int dx f(x)$. Probably because we don't fuck

[-] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 21 points 1 year ago

As a software dude I can see you wrote a regex, I just can't find out what you're trying to match.

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[-] laserm@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

Why would a mathematician use j for imaginary numbers and why would engineer be mad at them?

[-] CyanideShotInjection@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

The only thing I can think of is that the OP studied electrical engineering at some point. But it's a 4chan story so probably fake anyway.

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[-] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 year ago

Better plot than 50 Shades of Grey

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[-] Phoenix3875@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

I think rather d/dx is the operator. You apply it to an expression to bind free occurrences of x in that expression. For example, dx²/dx is best understood as d/dx (x²). The notation would be clear if you implement calculus in a program.

[-] bhamlin@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

If not fraction, why fraction shaped?

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[-] edinbruh@feddit.it 22 points 1 year ago

Relationship goals

[-] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 year ago

$\int dx f(x)$ is standard notation for physicists

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[-] BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago

I love how that wannabe 4chan nerd just got outnerded in the comment section

[-] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago

They both bottoms.

[-] Etterra@discuss.online 10 points 1 year ago

Can somebody ELI5 this for my troglodyte writer brain?

[-] BlackRoseAmongThorns@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Integrals are an expression that basically has an opening symbol, and an operation that is written at the end of it that is used also as a closing symbol, looks kinda like:$ {some function of x} dx.

The person basically said "the dx part can be written at the start also, and that would make my so mad :3": $ dx {some function of x}.

This gets their so mad because understandably this makes the notation non-standard and harder to read, also you'd have to use parentheses if the expression doesn't just end at the function.

Note: dollar used instead of integral symbol

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